Building Walls or Building Bridges – Trump and the Pope
by drfuture2013
Sorry, friends, that I am been absent for a while here, but I have been busy trying to wrap up the next-to-last volume of my book series, and other personal matters. However, there has been buzz recently concerning a unique scrap between two major public figures concerning a religious matter, for which I just had to add my two-cents as food for thought.
As most of you know, a few days ago the Pope was asked to comment about popular Presidential candidate Donald Trump and his comments about the Mexicans that the Pope was visiting at the time at the border. The interchange has been famously misquoted on television and on line almost everywhere, but you can read the actual comments, in context, here. The key points of question to the Pope and his response are taken from this cited reference and the Catholic News Agency transcript, and include the following:
“Phil Pullella, Reuters: Today, you spoke very eloquently about the problems of immigration. On the other side of the border, there is a very tough electoral battle. One of the candidates for the White House, Republican Donald Trump, in an interview recently said that you are a political man and he even said that you are a pawn, an instrument of the Mexican government for migration politics. Trump said that if he’s elected, he wants to build 2,500 kilometers of wall along the border. He wants to deport 11 million illegal immigrants, separating families, etcetera. I would like to ask you, what do you think of these accusations against you and if a North American Catholic can vote for a person like this?
Pope Francis: Thank God he said I was a politician because Aristotle defined the human person as ‘animal politicus.’ At least I am a human person. As to whether I am a pawn, well, maybe, I don’t know. I’ll leave that up to your judgment and that of the people. And then, a person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian. This is not in the Gospel. As far as what you said about whether I would advise to vote or not to vote, I am not going to get involved in that. I say only that this man is not Christian if he has said things like that. We must see if he said things in that way and in this I give the benefit of the doubt.”
Trump subsequently took the media bait in twisting the Pope’s words, and said that someone challenging whether another person was a Christian was “disgraceful”; nevermind that less than 24 hours before Trump himself was publicly challenging Ted Cruz’ true Christianity because of his alleged deceit. Trump also would love to give the Catholic leader a “black eye” on the eve of the South Carolina primary, which is overwhelmingly evangelical and distrustful of the Pope anyway. His gambit paid off; numerous polls showed that his comments about the Pope raised his standing with voters, and in his vote returns, as the most popular candidate today amongst evangelicals, according to polls, and with major endorsements such as Liberty University head Jerry Falwell Jr. and Franklin Graham. Trump added that any reservations the Pope had a about the wall in Mexico were due to his ignorance, and that one day when ISIS attacks the Vatican he will wish there had been a President Trump.
It is important to look carefully at the words the Pope chose to use in his forced off-the-cuff response to a reporter, for he is a real thinking person. He did not say that someone who wanted a wall for a specific instance and justification was in question (for example, for a prison); rather, he responded to the reporter’s description of a man who spoke poorly of him and others that seek diplomacy, and sought to deport large numbers and split up families, in the reporters view. In response, the Pope carefully said that one who only thinks about building walls and not building bridges, is not a Christian, adding that “This is not the Gospel”. In other words, it is a matter of the nature of the person and their first “gut level”, reactionary responses to any conflict and disagreements, that defines their connection to Christ, or “abiding in the Vine”. The choice between “building bridges” or “building walls” is at the heart of the Gospel; it’s the same as the choice between Jesus od Nazareth or Jesus Barabbas.
I believe the Pope is on sound Biblical foundation in his assertion here. There are only a handful of uses of the word “wall” itself in the New Testament. Their is a reference to a wall in Damascus in which Saul of Tarsus was let over in a basket to prevent his capture, and the “whited wall” that Paul used to describe the chief priest, similar to a comparison Christ made, but with neither in a favorable intention. There is also the wall in the New Jerusalem. However, it has numerous wide gates that never close, that the free people are free to pass through, as they take refreshment from the Tree of Life, the River from the Throne and God’s presence, all taken freely and without restriction – the “end game” God wants for His people. The only other reference in the entire New Testament is a doctrinal one, from the Apostle Paul in Ephesians 2, when he told the Gentile Ephesians that
“That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition [between us]; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, [even] the law of commandments [contained] in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, [so] making peace; And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby.” (Ephesians 2:12-16)
At the time (at least for a decade or two more), the Temple stood, as it had for centuries, with a separate outer courtyard for Gentiles, and an inner court for the Jews; if a Gentile strolled in the inner area, signage was posted that said he was to be killed. When Jesus died on the Cross, He first tore down the first “wall” between God and man when the Holy of Holies curtain was torn; a generation later, the entire Temple complex, with its “wall of separation” between Jew and Gentile, would be visibly broken down. Meanwhile, the Holy Spirit broke down other barriers between Jew and Gentile, with the visions for Peter and the salvation of Cornelius and other Gentiles. When the Pope mentions people who think only of building walls or building bridges, he is referencing this Biblical teaching: “And all things [are] of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation” (2 Cor 5:18).
I have witnessed a number of pro-Trump pastors come to his defense (Trump’s, not the Pope’s, the latter having been lambasted by many Christians for his comments), saying that building walls was Biblical, and cited Nehemiah as their sole example. I find it curious to note that Nehemiah himself (aside from his own singlular book) was mentioned only in one verse in the book of Ezra (a similar book), and no where else in the Old Testament, and certainly not in the New. Neither Christ nor the Apostles found any cause or reason to ever cite Nehemiah, and his fellow armed wall builders, as a spiritual model for their teaching of the New Covenant and Kingdom of Heaven – I wonder why?
I’ll conclude by noting the irony that the other Republican candidate popular with evangelicals – Ted Cruz – is using David Barton as head of Cruz’s “Keep the Promise” Super-PAC. Barton is a former Texas Republican Party vice chairman, and a political consultant to the Republican National Convention on wooing evangelicals. However this man, armed with his sole Bachelor’s Degree in Christian Education from Oral Roberts University, is a household name (at least in Christian households) for being “an expert in historical and constitutional issues”, at least according to his own claims in his own organization biography. You may already know that many fellow Christian historians of legitimate historian academic credentials have debunked many of his assertions concerning the spiritual faith fo the Founding Fathers and their documents, including those he excises and omits, and his exoriation of the separation of church and state, and original intentions. What is the name of his organization? Wallbuilders. On the same web page he says the organization name comes from “the Old Testament writings of Nehemiah, who led a grassroots movement to rebuild the walls of Jerusalem and restore its strength and honor.” By the way, what happened to Nehemiah’s walls they so painstakingly built? Well, due to their own internal corruption within the walls, first the Greeks and then Romans took them over at God’s pleasure for their disobedience, and the walls did them no good. Later, when they insisted on internal civil war and rebellion from Rome (following Zealots like the Jesus Barabbas they chose, and as American evangelicals choose today), even these walls were thrown down, along with those of the Temple itself. Only the Western Wall fragment remains as a testament to their futility. If a people aren’t pure at heart, walls will do them no good. One day the Jews may build these walls again, along with the Temple (likely with evangelical help), just like their dubious wall to keep out Palestinians, to help facilitate the coronation of their “messiah” the Anti-Christ as God in their Temple. Walls do more to keep evil in, than keep evil out.
Cultural “wall-building” is big business today in conservative and Christian circles, and has been for a long time. It requires a Chicken Little propaganda arm to keep saying “the sky is falling”, and “barbarians are at the gate”, be they Muslims, Mexicans, Communists or secularists. Gold and survival food is always ready for sale at Christian ministries concurrent with these messages; they follow the adage of the old Fuller Brush door-to-door salesmen: “First create a need, and then fill it”. It requires the demonization of those who are the least bit different culturally from us, and use of the old Klan warning that “they’re coming to rape our white women”. Intelligence agencies, defense contractors and other big businesses (even individual billionaries from casinos, gas fracking and the like) can provide all the money they need for paid airtime, first-class accommodations and facilities, and a prominent position at the National Religious Broadcasters conventions. It violates many premises of New Testament teachings, including to love your neighbor, love your enemy, and the Golden Rule. It also is a fundamental expression of unbelief in God and His goodness and power, to properly protect His own, and the mission of the Church in their world until it is completed. And it is embraced by “Bible believing Christians” that are weekly church attenders now more than ever. In contrast, “bridge builders”, be they with Muslims, the poor, minority groups and the like, are always starved for funds, and people to help. They seek to better understand people who see things from a different perspective or experience, and even those who may claim to have gotten a raw deal by us or our ancestors, and are bitter about it. “Bridge builders” humbly listen to others, and don’t try to butt in and defend their own culture or faith, and rather listen and be respectful to them. They make the first move to make contact and to bless the “stranger”, who may rightfully be skeptical of them, and are patient to let trust build, even to the point of extending more grace to them than to their fellow Christians. They take the effort to do this face-to-face, but also listen to others worldwide and in the media, and endorse their concerns (when justified) to their elected officials and their Christian leaders and friends. While they toil away, slowly building trust with other groups, they are called “naive”, “misguided” and even unpatriotic “traitors” (the most serious of spiritual offenses) by their own Christian kindred. These Christian scoffers are the “Sanballats” and “Tobiahs” that sew discouragement and grief in those building Christian bridges of reconciliation.
Of course, practical yet merciful measures to secure borders, to vet entrants as to their being criminals or terrorists, is a legitimate concern of Caesar (i.e., government). However, this is not the issue here. The real question is what do you want to be the focus of your thoughts and deeds, and instinctive “nature” over your very brief life – as a “wall builder” or a “bridge builder”? What do you want to be?
I look forward to your enlightening comments!
Mike,
Good one!
Thanks.
Joe Peterson
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Bridge builder for sure. I’ve built walls around myself my whole life but as I get older, I crave the peaceful, open minded approach to things.
I’ve kinda given up trying to please God and have just let go of things in my life. I’m not doing real good right now and God wont answer my prayers so I’ve stopped praying.
Now all I ask Him is if He is even here or listening to me. I try to pursue God but I feel like I’m talking to the walls when I do.
God wont give me an experience or a sign or anything. He is silent in my life. Maybe He will listen to you because I am at the end of my rope.
I have to turn to Cannabis now to gain some peace and serenity. I prayed for years and years for personal peace and all I found was the opposite.
I’m really starting to think I’m Esau and there isn’t anything I can do to change that.
Sorry for the rant Dr. Mike there are just so few Christians that I actually respect anymore. I know you have a good heart so would you tell God how I feel about Him?
I’m sick and tired of being sick and tired.
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Michiginmatt – you don’t need to try to please God. He’s pleased with you. You’re not Esau. You just don’t understand who you are or who God is. Look to Jesus alone and stop trying so hard. In the weeks heading to Easter, reread the Gospels slowly, but don’t filter them through your religious or cultural tradition. Try reading them for the first time and watch the Lord speak to you. Remember, Jesus is the perfect imprint of the Father, the exact form of God’s nature. Look to Jesus alone.
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God doesnt respond. I cant go on to try to get Him to respond. THINK ABOUT THE LOGIC HERE………….
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Bro. Matt,
I just got done talking to God about how you feel about Him. I have to admit though, that a lot of times I wonder if God is hearing me too. On my best days, I realize that I was just not seeing how He was at work, and the stuff He was doing I was just taking for granted, or overlooking. Sometimes just seeing Him work in some special way in a friend’s life gets me though; in fact, I suspect He had something to do about collecting for me the honest friends I do have.
However, I will try my best to resist my natural urge to add my trite and pithy unsolicited comments when my family and local friends are hurting like I always do, rather than just listening. I’ll just sit in the ashes with you right now and be quiet.
One thing I will add, pertaining to something I ponder at times – having read the Bible my whole life and heard it in Sunday School, I have gotten the impression that the Bible-era “golden days” were one of one miraculaous events and spiritual experience right after the other, just like people’s lives in the movies. As a look closer, I find that “celebrity” Bible people God had relationship with, or entire peoples who tried to follow HIm, might not hear from Him in the unmistakable way for long stretches of time, and in the meantime they would get depressed, like Elijah and just about everyone else. Sometimes God seems like an “old school” husband who tells his wife of many years, “I said I loved you twenty years ago – nothing has changed!”, or the martial arts master who tells his student, “keep waxing on and waxing off until I tell you – when you are ready for it in my view, I’ll give you new instructions!”. The Bible is a story of people who heard the audible instructions of God at times, and saw His unmistakable works, and still did their own things anyway. Jesus Himself did many unexplained signs and wonders, and only a handful of the audience believed Him, just a little. When the rich man wanted to warn his brothers not to go to Hell like him, thinking a man from the dead would get their attention, God said that people who ignore His prior instructions in the Law and Prophets will find reason to ignore a man from the dead; obviously the irony of the story Jesus told is that they did just the same thing to Him when He came back from the dead. I say this to say that we, humanity in general, have our own problem with hearing God; I do, and I suspect most or all of our readers do too, and we’re not happy about it, but Jesus did say that “He who seeks will find”, and some day we will see Him face to face.
I close by saying that there are some things I am certain God wants you to know and do – take care of someone who may be desperate around you, like in a nursing home or disabled, or anyone who is vulnerable; you will hear from God eventually in the midst of doing that. My guess is that if you help out someone with dementia and is unaware of your help, God may tell you that that is what He is doing with you, and the rest of us. In my advanced age I have now decided that humans in general “can’t get no satisfaction”, at least to the extent that Madison Avenue tells us we should in this world, with perfect bodies, perfect mates, perfect jobs, perfect bank accounts, perfect friends and recognition and successes, etc. – those who finally accept what God says will decide to find simple comfort in what simple pleasure they find, such as a good cup of coffee, a funny joke, someone who acknowledges we are here, and a warm afternoon; while the “other stuff” we desire will have to wait for a (soon to come) later day, or our desires will “grow up” and mature in the meantime. If we are hurting bad at any time and it is getting in our way from hearing God, then a good friend (even online, if nowhere else) needs to be the one to lean on and also bear our souls to.
I hope that didn’t sound hollow and trite – you just got me thinking, and my mind running.
Let’s just try to make this a start of a conversation.
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My family all decided to gang up on me and I’ve been kicked out of my moms house for literally nothing at all. I only have a few hundred bucks and am homeless now.
I have been having anxiety attacks since this whole thing started Wednesday night. My life is literally coming apart. I cant even cry anymore because I’m so drained now.
Mike, I don’t have much more to grab onto anymore. Why wont God just answer my prayers? I already know the answer man. Ever since I became a Christian my life has gone downhill except for a few periods where I was doing very well for myself. But 75% of the time it has gone totally downhill.
I’m not asking God for money to live nicely. I’m not asking God to provide alcohol or drugs to me so I can cope. I am asking God to be my strength. I am asking God to protect me. I am asking God for a new home where no one knows me. I am asking for simple honest humble things but God WONT answer them.
I know all I can do is hold on but that’s what I have been doing and it seems things only get worse as time goes on.
My spirit is literally dying man.
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Bro. Matt,
What caused the estrangement with your family? Are you employed right now?
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My mom has NPD (Narcisistic perosnality disorder). Every NPD has a scapegoat around them that they can blame for everything. I’m that person while the rest of my siblings (3) are treated as golden children who can do no evil in her eyes.
Mike, this is something 34 years in thhe making man. I dont know why I was chosen to be the SG, but this is a system my entire family is used to so if I start calling people out on what they are doing, I am chastised for even trying to defend myself.
I live in a real twisted environment. My whole life has been anything but pretty.
I get a little bit of money from the government. Enough to rent out a room but this happened so sudden, I dont have the resources to recover financially.
I’m not asking for handouts I’m not that kind of person. My back is just against the wall and I don’t know what to do. I have friends who let me sleep on their couches but they wont do it very often. I have been going around begging them to let me sleep there for the night. I hate this.
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Thank you for your respect too Mike. I really appreciate it. I love positive good people and I loath toxic people. If you talked to my friends, they would tell you I’m generally a real nice person. I love being nice and good to people because it makes me feel great inside. But man I am so broken right now I cant stop giving into my sin nature. It is just easier to give in then fight it and I’m very weak right now.
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I’m about to kill myself. I cant do anything now. No moving. Nio home. No roof. No nothing. IS IT THE CALLING OF AL;L CHRISTIANS TO NOTY GIVE A FUCK ABOUT PEOPLE AND THEIR SUFFERINGS? FUCK……………
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Dear Matt,
Everything happens for a reason. Even when we are suffering, it is usually because we need to change for some reason. God is a perfect father, but like Doc Future said, we are unable to see the full picture.
I think pride is a major stumbling block for most people. I know it is for me. When I face adversity, I have learned to thank God for it, because I know it could be much worse. He won’t put you through anything you can’t handle.
Try not to blame anyone for your situation, just try to understand what the situation is trying to change inside of you.
God be with you and I am praying for you,
Chuck
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Matt,
The last thing you want to do is kill yourself. Remember the old saying about the good angel on one shoulder and the bad on the other? We have these two giving us ideas all the time. But it is up to us to use our free will to act on their suggestions. If you do end up killing yourself, just know you are listening to the bad angel. You are using your “God given” free will to act out something a bad angel is whispering to you.
The thing we do in our life can make these voices louder. Pray against the things that make that bad angel’s voice loud in your life. Pray that the good angel is easier to hear.
People can survive homeless for decades. You will get through this. You are being tested. Pass the test!
I will continue to pray for you,
Chuck
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i’M DYING IN 18 MINUTES
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Bro. Matt,
I am so sorry that I was out of Internet service yesterday, and not here for you. I hope that you have reconsidered your intentions, and can embrace the will to see your troubles through – if anything, to show the Devil that you will not submit to his intentions for your doubts and destruction. You are of great value to God, and your Christian brethren. Your life has great potential for wonderful acts of love and mercy for others, and the satisfaction it brings, for the rest of your days. Clouds and feelings of separation from fellowship will pass, and do not listen to voices outside or inside your head that tell you to give up – you’ll never know what victories are possible.
Please let us know that you are okay. I also recommend that you talk someone more skilled than myself – psychologists, Christian or otherwise, have ways to get your help and assistance even if you don’t have money, and many of my Christian friends have said that they have helped them through days you are going through.
One of your brothers who cares,
Mike
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Dr. Future, thanks for this. I’m embarrassed to say, I took my thinking on this from Drudge’s headlines and Mr. Trump’s “response.” Boy that guy is crafty. I’m sorry I didn’t bother reading the Pope’s comments in context.
Wish you’d start releasing your books.
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Working hard to wrap them up, Bro. Doug – thanks for the encouragement. That’s why I don’t post here as much!
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actually, I think the pope was rather clear, in a wonderfully expert “political” way, of saying just exactly what he wanted to, while referencing a particular person without it seeming personal. He slipped up, however, with his the second part of his statement with his “this man” usage. Look, it isn’t a right that any of us have stating that someone is or isn’t “Christian” depending on their views on illegal immigration. Perhaps in reference to heretical statements, perhaps. So the pope went a bridge too far in judging anyone’s true faith based on such flimsy evidence. An as the world’s most famous politician, he should have known better than to bite the worm the reporter dangled in front of his mouth. But I guess that’s what pontiffs do, they pontificate. As for what anyone who works with or for Ted Cruz has to do with this, you leave me at a loss, I thought this had to do with the pope and Trump. You do tend to wander far afield in your postings. So I guess we can add evangelicals in with Calvinists in your least favorite people listings. The pope should have added that he wants us to welcome and give stuff to those who do illegal things as well. Love them. Sure. Help them. Sure. Encourage them and others to continue disobeying sovereign laws. Doubtful. I’m sure that the Vatican, with it’s billions in funds and billions spent on building cathedrals might consider shifting some of those billions into their helping hand fund. Then you can talk to me about your genuine care for the poor. It seems like the Christian thing to do.
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Great post as usual, Doc.
The ‘money quote’ from your post:
In contrast, “bridge builders”, be they with Muslims, the poor, minority groups and the like, are always starved for funds, and people to help. They seek to better understand people who see things from a different perspective or experience, and even those who may claim to have gotten a raw deal by us or our descendants [[–you probably meant ancestors here–]], and are bitter about it. “Bridge builders” humbly listen to others, and don’t try to butt in and defend their own culture or faith, and rather listen and be respectful to them. They make the first move to make contact and to bless the “stranger”, who may rightfully be skeptical of them, and are patient to let trust build, even to the point of extending more grace to them than to their fellow Christians.
The ‘money quote’ from your conversation with Michiganmatt:
I say this to say that we, humanity in general, have our own problem with hearing God; I do, and I suspect most or all of our readers do too, and we’re not happy about it, but Jesus did say that “He who seeks will find”, and some day we will see Him face to face.
I close by saying that there are some things I am certain God wants you to know and do – take care of someone who may be desperate around you, like in a nursing home or disabled, or anyone who is vulnerable; you will hear from God eventually in the midst of doing that.
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Thanks for the good words, and helpful correction – partially the fruit of a late-night operation, but regardless it now stands corrected.
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I don’t know that the press is intentionally misquoting the Pope words, but rather making their own interpretation of the Pope’s words. Someone who seeks to build walls between people is acting like a Christian. Donald Trump is a person who seeks to build literal and figurative walls between people. Donald Trump must not be Christian. I think even the world knows that his attitudes and ideas are not compatible with the bible.
Here is an interesting, but slightly off topic article. http://ib2news.org/2016/02/23/is-trump-truly-triumphant-with-evangelicals/
Can you picture Jesus saying the things that our candidates are saying? I can’t.
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Thanks for tipping us on that informative article. It does suggest that many self-proclaimed “Christians” spend little time considering sacred things, in a sacred context like worship, versus what the pundits tell them to think.
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Dr. Future, I’ve not read the comment thread (though I intend to later), but I want to thank you for your thoughtful and biblically focused comments. I was already thinking in a similar direction, but the negative aspects of the Nehemiah/ wall-builder mentality and its modern incarnations is particularly helpful.
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Thank you so much, brother, for your much-needed encouragement. I look forward to reading your further insights here.
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Love your work.
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Thanks so much, bro.
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