The Religious Right and White Supremacists: A “Match Made in Valhalla”
by drfuture2013
In the draft manuscript of Volume 6 of my book series, The Holy War Chronicles – A Spiritual View of the War on Terror, I wrote at some length about what was arguably the most powerful and influential Christian political activism and “cultural warrior” organization of the early Twentieth Century, whose central tenets are still being actively championed by most American conservative Christians today.
In their heyday millions of American men were members of it – 15% of the entire eligible American male populace (predominantly in the West and Midwest), all organized under a central banner. Its widely respected leader wrote that his organization “embodies the group mind of America. It is representative of complete nationalism”, with his organization claiming, “I am the soul of America”.
A large proportion of their founding and subsequent members were Protestant pastors, who were concerned about the rise of new immigrants and rival religions controlled by theocracies overseas. At their meetings they sang hymns, while their members distributed Bibles at schools, and joined (and eventually took over) school boards to ease out un-American teachers of other faiths, with its members eventually becoming governors and Supreme Court justices. Most of the membership was firmly of the middle class and had access to education, including Quakers, Baptists, Methodists, Church of Christ, Disciples of Christ, and United Brethren, with a large portion of bankers, lawyers, dentists, doctor, ministers, businessmen and teachers. A historian of their group said that “They were critical of liberal Protestant theologians who used historical criticism and science in biblical interpretation”, but were “more evangelical than fundamentalist”. One of its members at the time wrote that it got many ministers involved in the group by “donating to the preacher”, as its organization “bound Christianity with Americanism”, and whose members formally dedicated themselves to the Constitution, “American ideals and institutions” and “the tenets of the Christian religion”, and wrote of themselves as the “successors of the Reformation” who would “cleanse” the church with Protestantism as “a foundation for both democracy and religious freedom”; in others word, “make America great again“. They also claimed to model themselves after the early Church.
They not only donated food and started charities (to garner community support), as an organization intended to unite across denominational lines with the Bible as their “keystone”, and were expected to be regular church attenders with their families and supporters of their Sunday Schools (certainly being many teachers there). Their logo included the blood of Christ, “shed for all humanity”. Their stated model was the Christian Crusaders who rescued the Holy Land from the “heathen Turks”, and now sought to conquer the “enemies of Americanism”.
Its members had to profess loyalty to the American flag, it having been “purchased by blood and suffering of American heroes”, as the “price paid for American liberties”. Their publications further confessed that “we must admit that the bases of America’s laws are the great moral laws of God”, as their goals were the “maintaining a Christian civilization in America”, as “Their nation was in danger, and the only way to save it was to reconnect with the nation’s religious foundations”. Their leader stated that “real, true Americanism unadulterated, [included] a dogged devotedness to our country, its government, its ideals and its institutions”.
He warned that “We must look first at the crisis in our civilization, now near its height. Americans find today that aliens…instead of joining, challenged and attacked us. They seek to destroy Americanism”; however, he took solace that his group “embodies the group mind of America. It is representative of complete nationalism”, and “That understanding of nationalism uplifted patriotism, uniformity, common language, common religion, respect for the government, and common tradition as well as history”, because “True nationhood is essentially oneness of mind, and it recognizes certain beliefs held in common by its citizens…no person who lacks them can be in harmony with the nation”, whereas the original Puritans had a “divinely-appointed…mission” which was now required to “realign with their destiny”.
The group’s periodicals stated that “America’s idealism, institutions, destiny and affluence are written in the Bible, and upon this Book, the Work of God, America is founded”, noting that all of the “great” documents (Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and the Monroe Doctrine) originated in the Bible, and “therefore these documents are the basis of the logic and demonstration of every American problem”, with the nation being exceptional in origin, doctrine, and even physical space. It adds that “the lives of the early fathers and their writings reveal that America was established by Christ…to put an end to ‘their System’”, while America was not for “refuse populations of other lands” who had not civilized the nation, but only wanted to exploit the toil of the forefathers and pioneers. Most importantly, the organization wanted the Bible taught in public schools, and called Americans to a “culture war” to “arouse themselves” and “don’t be cowards, for God hates nothing more than cowardice”, appealing to a masculine Christ and aggressive American Christian male.
Their creed professed devotion to included the following tenets: a) “I believe in God and in the tenets of Christian religion and that a Godless nation cannot long prosper”, b) “I believe in the eternal separation of Church and State”, c) “I hold my allegiance to the Stars and Stripes next to my allegiance of God alone”, d) “I believe in the protection of pure womanhood”, e) “I believe in the limitation of foreign immigration”, and f) “I am a native born American citizen and I believe my rights in this country are superior to those of foreigners”.
They supported the 1924 Johnson-Hartley Act, which favored northern Europeans for American immigration versus southern European “Mediterraneans”. They were active in opposing the immigration to America of a rival faith that was taking American jobs, and the threat of their mass mobilization under a foreign religious leader, with their faith viewed as a political organization in religious clothing. They eventually took part in violent conflicts in their marches on college campuses.
So – who is this organization, comprising 15% of American males and a large proportion of Protestant ministers nationwide at the time, who virtually invented the platform and agenda of today’s Religious Right?
The 1920’s Ku Klux Klan.
At the time they were invited nationwide (not just in the South, as the biggest collection of Klansmen was in Indiana, where their governor and supreme court justices donned the hood) in our sacred churches, to do recruiting drives during church services on Sundays, just like a Gideon speaker might today, but speaking of American-Christian values and the need to “stand up” and get active. The following are a few pictures of such “sacred Sundays”:
Well – at least such associations by our dear Christian leaders are a thing of our ignorant past – right?
As per my recollection, in the early 1980s my older brother was licensed as a minister and served as an assistant pastor at a small rural Baptist church in Shepherdsville, KY, just outside of the city of Louisville. They experienced a tremendous revival and growth, and according to a recent conversation I had with him to spur his recollection, a choir came to sing at the church that featured several African-American members. The following Wednesday night during the prayer meeting service that my brother led, one of the “prominent” church members of several generations stated that his family had played a key role in the establishment of the church, and that the presence of Negroes would be unacceptable. My brother responded that they would always be welcome in the church, leading the man, known to be a Klan leader in the community (even having had his son expelled from the Klan for excessive behavior) to give a not-so-veiled threat as to the church. The following Saturday in 1983, the brand-new church, just finished by the congregation members, was burned to the ground, and later determined by authorities to be due to arson.
In fact, I uncovered a 1924 edition of their local community newspaper, the Pioneer News, which advertises a Klan meeting in town, explaining, “KU KLUX KLAN – And what it stands for, explained by a prominent minister. Shepherdsville, Sunday, May 24 on the Public Square. Big Klan Parade. Klan Naturalization [induction ceremony]. Full ceremony open to the public. Follow the parade. Every man, woman and child interested in America and our civic problems is invited to hear this great American organization explained” [citation]. Elsewhere in the newsletter it noted that “The Ku Klux Klan made its first public demonstration here Saturday night, about 60 were in the parade which marched through town and returned to the field of Mr. O. H. Masden of Fair Haven. A large crowd heard the speaker on the public square in front of Troutman’s Store, but at the field at 11 P.M., the cross was burned and new members initiated, the crowd was much larger. Many members from Jefferson, Spencer, Hardin and Barren Counties, from Indiana and Tennessee were here to take part in the meeting. The best of order prevailed with no disturbance of any kind”.
Well, its one thing to point out examples from backwoods locations like rural Kentucky (yet minutes from Louisville), but this does not have relevance to our urbane, sophisticated Christian leadership and community today – does it?
Bob Jones was one of the most prominent fundamentalist evangelists of the early Twentieth Century (possibly second only to Billy Sunday), and is the founder of the National Religious Broadcasters organization. However, he is best known for founding (although he himself was not a college graduate) of the most iconic center of fundamentalist training in America, Bob Jones University, in the 1920s (to counter secular schools’ teaching of evolution in the aftermath of the Scopes “Monkey” Trial) as the eventual “ground zero” of fundamentalist culture, while graduating generations of prominent evangelical pastors and religious leaders. One of them, Billy Graham, who had looked to Jones as a father figure (and was a board member of the school), split with him over the questionable allies Graham was associating with in his crusades, which led to the broader fundamentalist-evangelical split in the 1950s. Numerous sources document that, like other fundamentalist religious figures such as Billy Sunday, Bob Jones accepted Ku Klux Klan donations at his services and endorsed known Klansmen for public office, such as his friend Alabama Governor Bibb Graves [citation].
However, Bob Jones University is best known, beyond it being the breeding ground for generations of Christian fundamentalist leaders, for its racist policies, racial segregation and other inter-race restrictions, even until recent years. This “Christian” school refused to accept blacks to go to the school until 1971, and then only married blacks until 1975, even though the IRS had ruled that such schools with discriminatory admission policies were not entitled to tax exemption, eventually losing it in 1976 due to its refusal to change its policies. They continued to prohibit interracial marriage and dating, losing a court case in 1982 in the U.S. Supreme Court, and still maintained the policy by paying a million dollars in back taxes. It was not until the year 2000 that the school dropped their interracial dating ban. In 2000 the Baltimore Sun quoted Jonathan Pait, the university’s community relations coordinator, whose statement in 1998 declared that “God has separated people for his own purpose. He has erected barriers between the nations, not only land and sea barriers, but also ethnic, cultural and language barriers. Bob Jones University is opposed to the intermarriage of the races because it breaks down the barriers God has established. It mixes that which God separated and intends to keep separated” [citation]. They also note that while Republican candidates routinely flock to the University to seek endorsements or hold speaking events (such as George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Bob Dole and Dan Quayle), while Reps. Lindsey Graham and Asa Hutchinson (a graduate), and Senator John Ashcroft were conferred honorary degrees.
The other major fundamentalist and “Religious Right” leader of this era which had the most profound impact in my circles and household was the Rev. Jerry Falwell – radio and television preacher, founder and pastor of the Thomas Road Baptist Church mega-church, founder of Liberty University (arguably the most influential trainer of conservative Christian leaders, and frequent stop of political candidates), the Moral Majority and many other organizations, and the movement’s most iconic and famous “face”. For the purposes of our discussion, we will briefly cite what many of his followers over the decades are not aware of – his long-standing support of segregation and resistance to racial progress. This record was documented by Max Blumenthal in his article [citation] for The Nation magazine. He notes that Falwell preached a sermon four years after the 1954 Supreme Court Brown v. Board of Education ruling outlawing racially segregated public schools entitled, “Segregation of Integration: Which?”, from which he is quoted as saying that “If Chief Justice Warren and his associates had known God’s word and had desired to do the Lord’s will, I am quite confident that the 1954 decision would never have been made. The facilities should be separate. When God has drawn a line of distinction, we should not attempt to cross that line…The true Negro does not want integration…He realizes his potential is far better among his own race.” He went on to add that integration “will destroy our race eventually. In one northern city, a pastor friend of mine tells me that a couple of opposite race live next door to his church as man and wife”. As per my own research, it appears to me that the curious title to this sermon came from the 1956 pro-segregation book, Segregation or integration which? With the Negro in our midst, by fellow Fundamentalist Baptist pastor Gerald O. Fleming, a long-time pastor of the fundamentalist Dayton Baptist Temple (near my personal residence for many years); Falwell’s own Liberty University cites Fleming’s church-planting efforts as a role model in their own church=planting manual for students [citation].
Blumenthal continues by noting that Falwell distributed FBI-manufactured propaganda against Martin Luther King in support of J. Edgar Hoover, and referred to the 1964 Civil Rights Act as “civil wrongs”. He added that in his 1964 sermon “Ministers and Marchers”, Falwell identified King as a Communist subversive and having “left wing associations” as the Communists wanted to bring “violence and bloodshed” to America, further reproving King by saying that “Preachers are not called to be politicians, but soul winners” (I’m sure the reader can detect the irony in that statement). He was then noted as having found Lynchburg Christian Academy, described by the Lynchburg News in 1966 as a “private school for white students” – reflecting a trend to start private Christian schools to avoid the racial integration requirements in public schools. Blumenthal quotes Religious Right co-architect Paul Weyrich that he could not stimulate Falwell and his ilk to become politically active originally in support of the unborn, but rather when President Carter started efforts to remove tax exempt status from Christian schools that were still segregated, leading Falwell to then start the Moral Majority in 1979. This and other data I have found provided me a revelation that groups like the Moral Majority and others that my folks and our peers supported that formed the genesis of the Religious Right was not based on protecting the unborn, but rather to protect tax breaks for their race-segregated “Christian’ schools.
Since his death, his legacy and agenda has been continued by the current Chancellor of Liberty University, Jerry Falwell Jr. (while his other son Jonathan inherited his father’s other position as senior Pastor at his Thomas Road Baptist Church mega-church). Jerry Falwell, Jr. had just publicly endorsed Donald Trump after inviting him to speak at Liberty University during the 2016 presidential campaign, Falwell announcing afterwards that “I am proud to offer my endorsement of Donald J. Trump for president of the United States…In my opinion, Mr. Trump lives a life of loving and helping others as Jesus taught in the Great Commandment” [citation]. During Trump’s visit, Falwell Jr. said that “I see a lot of parallels between my father and Mr. Trump”, also comparing Trump to Martin Luther King on the day commemorating him, and to Jesus Christ Himself [citation]. In turn, at an earlier Liberty convocation in September 2012 Trump told the Christian students to “get even” to get ahead, rather than turning the other cheek, later backed up by Liberty’s media spokesperson Vice President Johnnie Moore who concurred that Jesus also “would and he did” get even with others, saying that “the Bible is filled with stories of God getting even with his enemies, Jesus got even with the Pharisees” [citation].
The Falwells and their followers are not the only Religious Right leaders with a curious position of history on the issues of race and slavery. In February 2016, David Barton, director of Ted Cruz’s super-PAC and known as Christian historian extraordinaire, told one his his primary supporters, Glenn Beck on his show during Black History Month that in reality white slaveholders treated their slaves like family, and then praised the white peoples of that era for passing amendments to the Constitution that allowed them to be finally recognized as full persons. He quoted a slave diary that said that “so much of the credit that blacks owed was for whites having gone to bat and doing things for them”, because “blacks were not able to free themselves, whites did” [citation]. Richard Land, formerly the primary spokesperson for the Southern Baptist Convention, spoke on the radio in the summer of 2014, commenting on Dinesh D’Souza’s research and noting that his point about the “lie about America being a colonial power”, and assenting to his point that “we ended slavery, we didn’t bring slavery to North America. Slavery was there, the Native Americans were enslaving each other before we got here. Eventually, we ended slavery. We have been a civilizing influence in the world” [citation].
One of the central figures of today’s Religious Right and its political activism, Tony Perkins, President of the influential Family Research Council (having picked Gen. Jerry Boykin to be his second in command, and a person I explore in depth in one of my book volumes) and, according to their website [citation], serves as President of the Council for National Policy (an invitation-only group of “whos who” in the Religious Right religious and conservative leader community who meet in secret, founded in 1981 by Tim Lahaye, Woody Jenkins (its first director and Perkins’ mentor) and others, and often cited as “the conservative version of the Council on foreign relations” [citation], has a few skeletons in his closet regarding this issue. His organization’s website also notes that he received a Bachelor in Science degree from Liberty University, as well as an honorary doctorate of divinity from the school as well, and is a licensed minister that fills many pulpits nationwide. A Marine and former police officer, he began working for a television station owned by Rep. Woody Jenkins. In 2005 Max Blumenthal reported in The Nation that
“Four years ago, Perkins addressed the Louisiana chapter of the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC), America’s premier white supremacist organization, the successor to the White Citizens Councils, which battled integration in the South. In 1996 Perkins paid former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke $82,500 for his mailing list. At the time, Perkins was the campaign manager for a right-wing candidate for the U.S. Senate in Louisiana. The Federal Election Commission fined the campaign Perkins ran $3,000 for attempting to hide the money paid to Duke.” [citation]
Blumenthal added that though Perkins denied having anything to do with Duke, “Perkin’s signature was on the document authorizing the purchase of Duke’s list”. The fine levied by the Federal Elections Committee was for “knowingly and willfully fil[ing] false disclosure reports showing Courtney Communications as the vendor”; a July 24, 2002 article in the Times-Picayune (Rep. Perkin’s local newspaper) added that when Perkins found out about Duke’s connection to the phone list, “he and Jenkins decided to route the payments through Courtney Communications, the campaign’s media firm, because ‘politically, we didn’t want to be connected with Duke’” [citation]. In a July 30, 2005 Vancouver Sun article, Perkins said regarding his May 17, 2001 Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC) speaking engagement that “he wasn’t aware of its history” and its segregationist ideology, although it had been reported in his local town and state newspapers since 1998, calling it a “racist group” [Ibid.]. In fact, a January 18, 1999 article in the New York Times reported Republican Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott’s association with the “white separatist group called the Council of Conservative Citizens” for “giving speeches to a racist organization”, and was an “honorary member” of the group, also frequented by Senator Jess Helms [citation]. At the top of this post you can see an online newspaper-published photo of State Rep. Perkins at the CCC podium on that day, standing in front of a big Confederate flag [citation].
Barbara Perry, in her book Hate Crimes, Vol. 2, asserts that the original mailing lists of the earlier Whites Citizens Council, formed to bolster white separation and supremacy in the advent of the Brown v. The Board of Education desegregation ruling, was used to begin the Council of Conservative Citizens, which by 2006 had 42 chapters in 19 states, both north and south, with as many as 15,000 members, and having described blacks as a “retrograde species of humanity”, as well as being anti-immigrant [citation]. She adds that their Confederate Flag-draped meetings featured regular speakers such as Trent Lott (several times, and also a member), who said they “stand for the right principles and the right philosophy” (p. 111). Max Blumenthal also notes in the Huffington Post that Mike Huckabee “eagerly accepted” an invitation to speak at the CCC 1993 national convention, according to its founder Gordon Lee Baum, but a governmental scheduling issue requiring him to temporarily serve as governor (he was Arkansas’ Lt. Governor at the time) necessitated his submission of a video address; the next year they used former Arkansas Supreme Court Justice Jim Johnson, who had organized the mob that rioted to stop the integration of Little Rock High School, and served as narrator of Rev. Jerry Falwell’s film, “The Clinton Chronicles” [citation]. Popular Alabama judge (and Ten Commandments public display defender) Roy Moore also spoke at the CCC in 1995 [citation]. Conservative write Ann Coulter stated in her 2009 book Guilty: Liberal “Victims” and Their Assault on America that the CCC had been unfairly branded as racist only “because some of the directors of the CCC had, decades earlier, been leaders of a segregationist group…There is no evidence on its Web page that the modern incarnation of the CCC supports segregation” [citation]. To let them speak for themselves, let’s see what the Council of Conservative Citizens says in their own online “Statement of Principles”, which was unanimously adopted at their 2005 Spring National Board Meeting:
“We believe the United States is a Christian country…We therefore oppose all efforts to deny or weaken the Christian heritage of the United States, including the unconstitutional prohibitions of prayers and other religious expression in schools and other public institutions. We believe the United States is a European country and that Americas are part of the European people…the American people and government should remain European in their composition and character. We therefore oppose the massive immigration of non-European and non-Western peoples into the United States that threatens to transform our nation into a non-European majority in our lifetime. We believe that illegal immigration must be stopped, if necessary by military force…We also oppose all efforts to mix the races of mankind, to promote non-white races over the European-American people through so-called ‘affirmative action’ and similar measures, to destroy or denigrate the European-American heritage, including the heritage of the Southern people, and to force the integration of the races.” [citation]
The CCC entered the news again recently when it was discovered that Dylann Roof, the mass assassin against the predominantly African-American members of a Charleston church in 2015 (killing nine), was heavily influenced by CCC publications on black violence against white people in his justification for his attack. The Los Angeles Times reported [citation] that his manifesto writing “reflects the strong influence of a white nationalist group called the Council of Conservative Citizens”. On his online manifesto webpage, Roof writes, “this [the Trayvon Martin incident] prompted me to type in the words ‘black on white crime’ into Google, and I have never been the same since that day. The first website I came to was the Council of Conservative Citizens. There were pages upon pages of these brutal black on white murders. I was in disbelief” [citation].
The current board member and national spokseman today for the Council of Conservative Citizens is Jared Taylor, who along with Matthew Heimbach and Richard Spencer (co-organizers of the recent Charlottesville ‘Unite the Right” Nazi rally) form the key triumvirate of America’s current white supremacist movement. Concerning the deadly rally itself, Taylor, who describes himself as a “racialist” [citation] who said that Trump’s election signals the “sign of rising white consciousness” [citation], said afterwords that
“If you get your news from NBC, this is what you learned about yesterday’s Unite the Right rally:…The problem was white nationalist violence…Of course, what caused the violence was hostile counter-demonstrators…If they had not been there, there would have been no violence, and the rally would have taken place as planned. Of all people, it was Donald Trump who came the closest to getting it right, condemning “hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides”…(Swastikas were extremely rare in Charlottesville, but they make for better “anti-racist” graphics than Confederate flags.)…There is confrontation only when anti-whites harass and try to stop pro-white events…Jason Kessler [the demonstration organizer] is scheduled to make a statement to the press today at 2:00 p.m. He is smart man and a brave man. I’m sure we can trust him to make an excellent case for our side.”
It’s a funny thing; I noticed some young people in the news video of the event that were confronting these Nuremberg torch-carrying, card-carrying Nazis in their regalia, but I wondered: Where is the American Legion? the other veterans organizations who fought Nazis, and whose buddies died fighting them? The Holocaust survivors?
And most of all – where are the preachers, and other people of faith? There may have been some brave “liberal” pastors (gasp – possibly even women!) and some non-religious ethicists, but not a conservative evangelical pastor I can find (or heard anything about). At least the young women there were brave enough to confront evil, even if the “cowards” did stay away.
At least the brave Religious Right leaders did express their outrage later, or in support over Trumps adamant and vehement equating of the world-reviled Nazis (responsible for killing millions) and those who confronted them. In an article in The New American [ciation], Franklin Graham writes, “Shame on the politicians who are trying to push blame on President Trump for what happened in #Charlottesville, VA…Because the president failed to attack the “white nationalists” and the “alt-right movement” by name in his remarks, politicians and activists looking for a way to slur Trump implied that all the responsibility for the violence was on one side….Another Republican and frequent antagonist of Trump, Senator Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), had harsh words for the “Unite the Right” rally (but not for the counter-protesters, without whose presence there would have been no violence), calling it an example of “hate and bigotry”…From the statements by the various politicians, one would have almost thought that Trump had shouted “Sieg Heil!”…What about the politicians such as the city council who voted to remove a memorial that had been in place since 1924, regardless of the possible repercussions?…they want to blame President Donald J. Trump for everything.” On his Twitter account [citation], Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. wrote, “Finally a leader in WH. Jobs returning, N Korea backing down, bold truthful stmt about #charlottesville tragedy. So proud of @realdonaldtrump”.
Kentucky Governor Matt Bevin (who sent his children to the same Christian school I attended) stated in a radio interview [citation] that the removal of slave-holding Confederate statues (most of whom were erected during the Jim Crow ere) were a “sanitization of history” that he “absolutely” disagrees with, and that that removing these monuments sets “a dangerous precedent” that we’re “not allowed to talk about certain elements of our history” and amounts to “revisionist history”, and alludes to the injustice of removing the statue of Roger Taney, the Supreme Court justice who issued the Dred Scott decision as a “slippery slope”, saying: “At what point—If somebody happened to have been a judge and something was erected in their honor but they happened to have one ruling one time that somebody’s offended by, is that worthy of them being removed from pretending they ever existed?” It is not surprising that he would not condemn those who march and threaten violent confrontation in a coming social civil war – At the 2016 Value Voter Summit in front of a Religious Right audience, he declared, “Do you think it’s possible, if Hillary Clinton were to win the election, do you think it’s possible that we’ll be able to survive?…Whose blood will be shed? It may be that of those in this room. It might be that of our children and grandchildren. I have nine children. It breaks my heart to think that it might be their blood that is needed to redeem something, to reclaim something”.
The argument that Trump and all the Religious Right leaders have made from the Charlottesville tragedy – that not just the Nazis, but both sides were equally guilty – explains why the Polish people and army are just as guilty as the Nazis for the start of World War II, and the French Resistance for the war in Western Europe – I mean, they did blow up railroad tracks and stuff, didn’t they, while the Nazis only wanted the tracks to take people away to safety in the rail cars.
I’ve noticed that since Trump’s apologetic remarks on behalf of the Nazis, the money grubbing business leaders have all resigned Trump’s business councils in disgust and shame on matters of principle, and the artists’ council as well. One group has not seen fit to have any defections as of Friday – the Religious Right leader council for Trump.
And these pastors and para-church leaders cannot figure out why young people and the rest of the public won’t come to their churches anymore, or give them the respect they think they deserve. I guess they’ll just chalk it up to “Christian persecution”.
One Bible passage that most perplexed and frightened me over the years was in Matthew 7, in which Jesus stated that “Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity” (Matt. 7:20-23). All I ever heard growing up was that if you confess, “Jesus is Lord”, and mean it, “you are in”. I also understood that at the Great White Throne many would acknowledge that they did not accept Christ, and thus they were guilty of Hell and damnation. Then, in this passage we see someone who appears to be doing all the right things, in a very public and conspicuous way, with all the trappings of great faith and devotion, and evidently is even self-deluded as to their own salvation. How horrible would it be to think that “you’re in” and then to your surprise to discover, “you’re out”! How could this be, that God would let this happen?
At my age, I now believe that those who are the most conspicuous with their Christian piety and verbage are often the ones we discover were playing a game, steeped in sin and secrets, and sometimes seemingly self-deluded. Probably most are not “smoked out” until the “other side”. Politicians, like many other liars, seem to put on a false persona so well that they tend to believe it themselves. And most Christians are the biggest fools, for taking these known liars and taking their very public statements of faith at face value, in defiance of their lifetime of “fruit”. An honest politician who does not exploit his faith publicly doesn’t have a chance with the Religious Right. On the other hand, all Trump had to do was to pay obesience at the Liberty University shrine, hold up his grandmother’s Bible, cite “Corinthians two” and that he “ate the little cracker”, and Falwell and his ilk were ready to literally compare him to King David and Jesus Christ, even after his recorded confessions of serial marital infidelity and forceful molestation of women – all for the mirage of insider power they thought he could give.
Many of our Christian leaders talk all about “fundamentalism”, but beyond the atonement and resurrection, it appears to me they have no idea what the real Gospel “fundamentals” are – the Golden Rule, love the poor, look out for the stranger and weak, etc.
How many more of our high-profile Christian leaders will hear those heart-stopping words from our Lord? I am afraid that I may be starting to understand what He meant by them.
PS – Much of the above was excerpted from the draft manuscript of Volume 6 of my upcoming book series, so you can get a taste of what it’s like. If any of this content is thought-provoking to you, please circulate its link online in your circles, and by word of mouth, to stimulate discussion.
Dude, you are good. Really good. No one can mix a cornucopia like you do. You talk a lot about the early twentieth century. News flash. We’re in the twenty first century. Do you think 15% percent of whites (love to see documentation of this figure) are in the Klan? Do you think most (many, alot, you weren’t clear) of protestant pastors are members now? Do you honestly think today’s America is identical to pre-civil rights America?
Perhaps the reason the people you castigate for not showing up to protest the racist is that they have better things to do then confront a few bigots while they confront a mob intent on violence.
Did you notice that the police weren’t interested in separating the two groups from the beginning? Wonder why? Just curious, would you like to remove ANY and ALL reminders of an imperfect past? Should we de-memoralize previous presidents who owned slaves? Or didn’t fight vigorously against slavery? Or didn’t care about slavery? All historical figures?
Why stop at the issue of slavery. Let’s go for women’s rights. Equal pay for women. Let’s desecrate the graves of any male employer who didn’t pay women the same as men.
How far does this silliness have to go on before you call it what it is? Political correctness by the thought police. I know your alt-liberal perspectives make you sympathetic to over-emotive appeals for censorship of ideas contrary to your own.
We need reminders of our past. Even painful ones. How else do we remember to not repeat these errors. You also take absolutely no account of the time in which the events you abhor take place. Do you honestly think you would have been some paragon of equal rights and virtues had you grown up in the early twentieth century? Do you think that highly of yourself?
So let’s see now. All conservatives (let’s call them right-wing, because that sounds so much more militant, unlike left-wingers, or the alt-left), are racists, and/or members (most secretly, of course) of the KKK. Anyone who desires an accurate accounting of our past, however painful, is a racist. I know, you will say the Nazis in Charlottsville were celebrating R. Lee’s racism. This may be true. I can’t account for everyone’s stupidity.
It would be so refreshing to read one of your posts that actually, for once, gave an overall and accurate picture of the issues you portray. I’ve seen not a one. Your interests is primarily to prove the superiority of yourself and your views and to receive the accolades of your sycophants. I guess forgiving past sins is not your boat. Well, whatever floats it. What you desire is abject groveling and total surrender to your superior desire and emotion.
I think we need to rename you “Won-Cy-Did”. Catchy, huh?
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Chuck, I want to thank you so much for demonstrating how the thinking and mindset of this recent era is still prevalent in Christians today, and alive and well – I could not have honestly depicted it better than you did. Its not a Klan membership card that persists (although there are still plenty in its alt-right child it birthed) – its the old platform (which I documented) and mindset in the Religious Right context today which still persists, and for which you demonstrated a fine example. I have to admit that I had you in mind when writing this, and thanks for confirming my assertions independently, and as an illustration for the other readers.
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You’re beginning to believe your own press, yes, truly a legend iour own mind. Other than inane platitudes and made up stories (oh my gosh, did the doctor have ME in mind when he wrote this), your response only reveals the box you are trapped in. So you really think Trump (and i don’t know why i ask you about this, as if you could possibly be objective) supports are mostly racists who want to go back to the days of slavery, or some version of it?
Are they mostly KKK members or KKK wannabes? What is your point? If i believed you, we are no better a nation than we were 150 years ago, or a hundred years ago. Why do you even post your diatribes? You have, like, three people who read them (i make up a third). It must be because you are in love with your own ideas, why, just the very…very…. superiority of them. Who would not be dazzled?
I feel for you and your little world of fear, a world that can’t handle the thought of your words and thoughts not being the very best of the best. I could almost buy your drivel if i thought you were sincere, but you paint with such broad strokes that it’s clear there’s no clear picture in your intent but just the objective of various bright incoherent colors meant to stun and subjugate weak and overly emotive minds. Your intent is not to inform and improve this world, but to obscure reality. You constantly whine and demonize but rarely if ever offer a solution, except the simplistic “Hey!! Stop being you and be me”.
You were thinking of me? Seriously? I’m not buying your bs. Seems you are. This is when you become not just a deluding influence, but self delusional.
Yes “doc”. You can count on me to do the big reveal everytime you post your tripe. Glad i can be an inspiration for you.
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Not to leave a stone unturned, dear friend:
“At its peak of political power in the early 1920s, the new Klan included almost 15 percent of the nation’s eligible population, approximately 4 to 5 million men”, “Ku Klux Klan”, New World Encyclopedia, http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Ku_Klux_Klan
Do you think one day you’ll believe my data?
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Very good, doctor. Not 15 percent of Americans (whites) but 15% percent of eligible folk (white males). And the 15% figure is what THEY claim. No verification has ever been made. Just their hype. And if you said that millions joined, you’d be right. But millions also quickly left once they realized it wasn’t what they originally thought it was. And while many “religious” folks joined (whatever religious might mean), no Protestant denomination ever endorsed the KKK. Quite the contrary. The major denominations issued condemnations of what they stood for. So painting a picture of significant portion of white people joining or them being “christian” is not a little misleading. And this was almost a 100 years ago. This anachronistic way of giving a skewered picture not only of the past but the present doesn’t speak well for your scholarship and research abilities.
You know, I’ve never read a balanced or even-handed post by you. You pick and chose regardless of proper context merely to inflame the simple minded and intellectually lazy. I’ve never read a post from you that tries to bring together differing viewpoints in order to bring some common ground where level-headed agreement can be reached, a point where all could meet and agree and address important issues. And this is the first time i can remember you even addressing a question or point that i raised. Perhaps there is hope after all. You might accuse Trump of dividing this nation because of his viewpoint, but your posts do just the same from a different perspective.
I can only hope you read more balanced perspectives so you can educate, and not just inculcate. You’re living in a country so corrupted by lies that i fear you too have fallen prey.The media, and other slovenly politicians (who give a rats’ ass about truth while they set themselves up for the next political cycle) condemned him for speaking truth. Violence should be condemned. Period. Whatever side uses it. The counter protesters (mostly millennials whom i doubt have ever read an honest and balanced history book) were just as wrong in their violence as the idiot white racists. And perhaps when Trump said there are good people on both sides, he wasn’t speaking about the scum from both sides who were there for show, but the two differing perspectives on whether we should whitewash our history by removing anything that anyone finds offensive. I mean, why don’t we just rename New York, named after one of the most prolific slave-traders of history. Seriously. Because you know, “I” find that offensive.
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Did you see this?
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This is very well written! One aspect that’s useful to point out is that this strain of evangelicalism is traditionally pretty isolated – by that I mean they go out of their way to raise their kids out of the ungodly influence of the worldly world. Kids grow up cut off from the television, music, books – anything and anyone that their parents don’t approve of – and that’s how these parents train their kids to raise their grandchildren. Today they might not all be intentional racists – but because of their foundations, it reveals a tendency to be unintentionally pro-sameness. Like a messed-up version of The Giver; instead of fearing and hiding from differences, they create an environment hostile to difference and hope only people who like sameness remain. That probably explains why the high school tables in a Christian college town had racial slurs written all over them – they hadn’t learned how not to be intentional about overcoming racism.
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Very insightful points, Jamie. I would call it “spiritual incest” and in-breeding; it always results in degeneracy and regression, just like the European monarchs, and even eugenics technocracy, who inbred themselves into deformity, retardation, mental illness and insanity by excluding the racial or intellectual “inferiors”. A pond that does not receive incoming water and outflow will become stagnant, fetid and diseased. My wife and I attended a church for a while that was in such a state, and generations of a few families controlling a congregation, with few outsiders, led to spiritual retardation and feebleness.
I am a product of a Christian high school, but a secular public elementary school and college. I was thus able to be exposed to the “real world”, and I found that many of my well-meaning instructors had also been products of such a sheltered existence, and thus tried to make us afraid of being exposed to what they viewed as a hostile “world”. I found their perspectives of it well-meaning but largely erroneous. I wonder if this isolation kicked into high gear after the Scopes Monkey Trial fiasco, and the alienation of fundamentalists who felt ill-prepared to deal with an advancing world.
Thank you so much, Jamie, for sharing your thoughts, and please keep commenting!
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Just want you to know that everything you said about those “religious people” can be said about the supposedly enlightened secular minds. That you can so keenly focus on behavior in a small group yet not seen it reflected in yourself or larger groups indicates a severe weakness in your thinking. Perhaps they avoid all the trappings of the world because they are just that…..traps. They want something better. Even something better than what you want.
And really, these twenty-third hand stories are just hilarious. The christian school with racist slurs on their desks. Boy, you and the “doc” are a match made in heaven. Your penchants for made up stories belong together. Does any actually check the accuracy of anything anymore, or do you just believe everything you read on the internet. The ability for critical thinking is fast becoming extinct. One can always discern a certain type of smugness in these posts, a sort of “if they could only be like me” attitude. How sad.
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Another Great Post Doc. It Seems however the proverbial Thorn in the side of all great thinkers has manifest with an unschooled and unrestrained persona in Chuck. I find myself constantly questioning the validity of this character (thinking he may be created by the author) with his outlandish and incessant bombardment of feces into a blog of insightful and likeminded fellow travelers pushing beyond the periphery of American Quasi Christianity many of us have found ourselves breaking free from. More concerned with critiquing ourselves and the way we should be acting both privately and publicly then the “alt-left sinners” our Christian leaders look to as their spiritual attacker’s hell bent on the destruction of the pillars of Christianity Lance Walnau and others have promulgated as a path to a utopian city on a hill theocracy Donald Trump is prophesied to usher in,,,, so says a fireman….. Where there’s smoke there’s fire…..
His attack on the historical ramifications of Americanized Christianity that manifest itself in the KKK and today in the Anti-Sharia movements was completely misguided in his presumed and ill-informed assumption that the Klan was a fringe and isolated crazed sect of Protestantism (with the argument that.. well they weren’t really Christian, and no churches endorsed the Klan). Now he struggles in digesting historical facts, but just for anyone that read this blog and began to question the legitimacy of its authorship due to the crazed and delusional I will provide a close to home demographically secluded incident of clan activity in my home state of Maine at the turn of the 20th century.
Now you may be thinking Maine???? They fought against slavery and historically the population of African Americans in Maine has never been above 1% of the population? All valid points if you, like Chuck, are under the assumption the Klan was a fringe racist group of crazies’ hell bent on destroying the “Negro”. That assumption would be a cause of the standardized school system that simplifies issues for the sake class times and content that must be covered.
The Klan was much more than a racist group, a there core the were “America First” Christians started to preserve the perfect race and religion from any outsiders be it Jews, Catholics and yes African American, and Maine is a perfect example of this.
http://mdihistory.org/wp-content/uploads/Maines-Gone-Mad-The-Rising-of-the-Klan_ocr.pdf -this is a great read if you have time but I will condense some of the highlights.
Edwin A. Garrett, III, “Report,” Spring 1994 from the Bar Harbor Historical Society states that “Klan membership grew from 23,000 in 1923 to its peak of 150,141 members by 1925.” Now the lowest numbers I have seen for this time are 40,000 members based on the sale of Klan robes.. which is like estimating the number of Nazis at the middle of the 20th century by the sales of Mein Kampf during that time.
So lets take a second and look at the numbers. At that time in Maine there were 700,000 residents and 150,000 Klan Members. That is over 20% of the entire population of Maine. There is more to think about here. The population on Catholics in Maine was 20% as well. http://www.centralmaine.com/2017/02/05/ku-klux-klan-emergence-in-1920s-maine-offers-lessons-for-today/ So lets assume that generously 75% of the population in Maine was Protestant, and half of the 75% were women and children. That still means that over half of the protestant men in Maine were in the Klan. So much so that the Klan was successful in Maine in electing the governor they backed. Just remember this was all without African Americans being a factor at all in the state. So what was the real reason for the unbelievable percentage and number of Klan members in the state of Maine? Let’s let them talk for themselves.
“The real issue is Americanism against Romanism,” wrote Fred Moseley of Brunswick in April 1924. “Thinking, intelligent people do not believe it is for the best interests of the people to place Catholics in office. If a person is not 100 percent American, he is not an American. Let us elect good people to office,” rather than a politician who would sell “his soul to the devil to buy an election at the price of dishonor, bidding for the Roman vote.”
In February 1923 the Ku Klux Klan organizer F. Eugene Farnsworth stumped in Portland, Maine, to express the Klan’s desire “to keep Protestant Americans in the lead, not only in numbers, but in fact.” Farnsworth urged the thousand men who had gathered at the Pythian Temple to hear him: “Let us get together and fill up our Protestant churches. We can do it, and we can control Maine.”
“Only the KKK and one hundred percent Americanism would save us.”
“Klansmen are not ‘against’ the Catholics or ‘against’ the Jews, but are
‘for’ Protestant Christianity first, last, and all the time.”
Richard, Mark Paul. “Invasion of the Pine Tree State.” Not a Catholic Nation: The Ku Klux Klan Confronts New England in the 1920s, University of Massachusetts Press, Amherst; Boston, 2015, pp. 17–33. JSTOR, http://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt1hd19qk.6.
So the Belief that the clan was some crazy sect of racists as Chuck and many others would want you to believe was not the case. They were nativists and Americanists through and through like we see so prevalent today spawns of the nativist and know-nothing parties of the 19th century.. that you guessed it were ALL PROTESTANT, and it is incredible important to know this. The Klan was protestant It’s simple math the only people group that the Klan did not attack and allowed were protestant. The Catholic Jew and every race but white was excluded and persecuted, and the protestant churches hosted them all throughout the country. They attacked the enemy closest to them that was a “threat” to their existence while unbeknownst to them their greatest enemy was themselves like the Americanized Christian church finds themselves in today.
Just as an example of what this Americanized Christianity leads to, in Maine the same governor that was elected made local Indians, African americans, and all different immigrants take a mental test involving the use of technology like a phone telegraph etc. and if the person could not use them and was ignorant to the “American Way” they were shipped to an island off the coast of Maine and left there. Yes this really did happen and the only way they survived is that local fisherman found out and went to the island teaching the people how to fish and be self-sufficient. One of my clients is a local historian in the town that owns the island and has tried to get some semblance of acknowledgement of what was done but the local government won’t acknowledge it due to its truly sick nature and embarrassment.
Does this sound familiar? An island off the coast where we keep the unwanted and detestable without human rights or a fair trial? I wonder if we will whitewash Guantanamo in 100 years as my local government has.
So yes this post was important and should get one to think especially as a Christian., instead of “Alex Jonesing” it and fly off the handles attacking personality and the author versus facts and sanity.
Good Luck Chuck
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Wow. This is a lot better post than mine (not surprised). Your example with Maine makes an excellent point about the Klan phenomena being more nativist and anti-Catholic (at least in its 1920s variety) than just racist, and thus very relevant to the Religious Right Trumpers today. I have now accepted, however, that all this talk in church circles of resisting immigrants and other cultures does have latent, unresolved and unacknowledged racism to them, just as the over-the-top paranoia and resistance to the gay community probably does reflect a measure of homophobia, evidently due to the uncertain masculinity in the average evangelical male today in a feminized church.
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Oh my gosh. Could you be anymore self-laudatory or admiring. Of course you like his post. He agrees with you. Did that even take a second of self-examination or discernment? Anti-Indian. Anti-Jewish. Anti-Catholic. Anti-everything. How much education does one have to have before they realize there are mean-spirited, bigoted, even evil people in every society and country on the face of this earth? And that racism, accurately understood, is not the purview of whites alone? All of these topics you rant and rave about are pandemic amongst humanity. Even if every single person who claimed to be christian were racist, that’s about 25%. But then you have to subtract Jewish believers, black believers. What’s that bring us down to? 15%. But then to use your “american” figure, we take 15% of 15%. What’s that, less than 3%? What is your point, doc? Is it just that you don’t have one? That that has never been the issue? That your just indulging your personal dislikes while pretending that you’re doing a service to humanity. Again, for the hard of reading, all i have seen you (and your twins) post are diatribes against certain “groups” (always white, always protestant or christian). What benefits do you offer? What solutions? I suspect you have none, That was never the objective. The topics are so vacuous and banal i am tempted often to stop reading them. But then your readership would fall by half. I’m not sure you could stand the blow.
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Another perfect example of a person who makes up the other persons argument, argues against it, and celebrates in their victory. You might have been effective if you had actually addressed my statements and not made them up. And i bet you think you’re sharp, don’t you.
I’ll repeat again for the hard of learning. Why do i care what the “current” state of affairs was a hundred years ago. I live in the present. Apparently, you live in the past (or desire as much to as those who you denigrate).
I spoke of the country as a whole. You cherry pick your information until you can find “facts” (filled with assumptions) that seem to support your point. You end up with Maine. Are we on the same planet here, mind?
Let me help you with a bit of reality. What people CLAIM to be and what they actually ARE can be radically different. Take you for example. Just another alt-leftist pretending to be concerned about the integrity of of history in order to “enlighten” the hoi polloi, while actually being a self-righteous prig who has fallen, like the doctor, under the spell of your own making. Another leftist who hides the violence of those like him behind the guise of righting the wrongs of a hundred years ago.
Now i know the doctor, while pretending to be semi- christian like, is nothing of the kind. Just another post modern mind who cares far less about the truth than he does about how he can cherry-pick and inflame those who, like him are unstable. He’s quite hostile about historic christianity and it’s core beliefs (not a few of which he himself distorts to his own satisfaction).
You and he seem like soul-mates. Even if everything you state or propose were true (not even remotely), and your every speculation were to turn out accurate (assumptions seldom do), exactly what have you achieved, other than to proof-text your opinions? What are you saying? Or is it just too comfortable sitting on your high throne of intellectual superiority to come down where the rest of us are (reality)? What purpose, other than condemning whatever ruined your breakfast this morning, do you serve?
Obviously you boys aren’t christian. And that’s not my problem. You’ll answer to the Creator eventually, and He’s far more righteous than I am. And if you, by some freak of circumstances unattested by your words, turn out to be christians, well then, your penchant for criticizing your fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, even if you have to dig back a hundred years, that will be another topic for discussion. I would like to see your justification before the One who sees through all of our bs.
What you write is quite useless, except to your radical left sycophants, who live, apparently like you, just to be enraged about something. Angry about imagined slights or some perceived divine call to remake society in your image, the very thing you condemn in others. Your feeble attempt to conjoin the most disparate of concepts into one unified stream of thought and history, while a comfort to a simplistic mind, is exposed by just a little light from truth.
So “mind”, find something useful to do. Improve the world. Get out of your mind cult. So something positive. While pointing out others faults is certainly a hobby that excites the flesh and serves as a methamphetamine to the mind, it ultimately serves no purpose. But remember, the secret to your success is to avoid, at all costs, actually addressing the substance of those who disagree with you. That’s where truth gets in the way. And balance. And even-handedness. And fairness.
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Seems like the only one really angry is Chuck. The man can’t see his own darkness. Time to do a personal inventory and keep your own house clean.
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Oh lordy, another psychic. How long have you had this ability to read other people’s minds. May i make a suggestion to you. Take a “how to get beyond ad-hominem attacks when debating”. Then check back in with me, okay? zzzzzzzzzzzz
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-23/blacks-are-13-us-population-376-prisoners-and-71-shooters-chicago
The comments on this article are good.
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To be fair to Jerry Falwell, he did recognize Sun Myung Moon as the new Messiah, one greater than Jesus of Nazareth. So how could he be considered a racist? Well, perhaps he once was, but later acquired the wisdom that comes with age … or was it via that other word (using a metaphorical context) that starts with ‘w’? No disrespect meant towards those literal ones that Jesus used to hang out with along with the tax collectors.
Y’all might want to consider that all this discussion is in a contextual apologetic hall of mirrors. After all, the Protestant KKK’s paranoid concern about ‘Romans’ has indeed come fulfilled, unless one wants to ignore all the changes in secular governance since the Kennedy assassinations, and such ‘ecumenical’ policy changes enacted in the Roman Church by Vatican II, e.g. the encouragement of Catholic intermarriage that helped eviscerate ‘High Church’ denominational Protestant churches, along with evangelical Entryism (which I witnessed).
And despite all the Catholics now in the Supreme Court, high leadership in Congress, all the Georgetown and Fordham (including Bannon and (Presbyterian in name only) Trump) alumni serving in the White House, such as David Duke are only in fascist adulation. Albeit I have not checked to see what they are saying now that Trump has granted the Zionists their greatest wish regarding Jerusalem.
The latter part a key aspect of the Futurist (a Jesuit construction) End Times, which is necessary as part of rebuilding the (second) Third Temple, so that Christian Zionists can destroy it, per the ‘script’.
The quantum Preterist End Times occurred in 70 CE, perfectly fulfilling Jesus prophecy, that the Temple would be torn down in the ‘generation’ of the disciples, but Cyrus Scofield divined that ‘generation’ did not mean a period of 40 years, as was used back in the day. Scofield, and his sponsors, knew better than the church fathers that were proud to crow that Jesus was right.
Funny that the Roman Church simultaneously endorse both the Preterist and Futurist End Times Schools, ‘supposedly’ to mitigate the Protestants’ claims that the papacy was the Antichrist. But, perhaps they gnew that the script was going to played once more?
As such, perhaps what we are all witnessing is really evidence of cynical ‘divide and conquer’ of the sheep, using your religion against ‘us’?
Back in September 2015, Pope Francis stopped at the Bottomless Pit, the 9/11 Memorial Fountain, and then went to his Mass at Madison Square Garden, where it was read (in Spanish no less) that the new messiah was on his way (Isaiah 9). He then flew home a few days later, looking out his plane window at the Blood Red Moon.
Perhaps Trump, a veritable Beast (just ask him) from Mar-a-Lago, is merely doing his assigned job (like Adolph Eichmann), playing his part in the ‘divine’ script? Was it mere coincidence that on September 23, 2017 that Jupiter was dropped from the Virgin’s belly, after spending about 9 months turning back and forth in retrograde motion?
The Roman Church is slowly bringing the Anglicans and the Lutherans back into the fold, even admitting that they were wrong about Salvation by Grace to do so; they’ve turned the Presbyterians into a gray haired fossil.
And, more to the point, they’ve turned many of the evangelical movement into the functional equivalent of the Jewish Zealots of old, rebelling against Imperial Rome, the Hellenizing Globalists of the day. Today’s Rabbinic Jews are ironically Globalist in the Roman camp, always under the Papal arm (see Carroll’s ‘Constantine’s Sword).
Unless you’re a zealous nationalist: Don’t Worry, Be Happy, the Vatican is telling us that Space Jesus will arrive in an ‘air force’ of spaceships. The Jesuits at the LUCIFER telescope say they can see them flitting around our solar system.
Along the way, good Christian volk, like Erik Prince might get to clean up in Afghanistan (to the tune of $1 trillion in mineral wealth) and set up the new Imperial Praetorean Guard.
“Meet the New Boss, Same as the Old Boss.”
Joseph colluded with Pharaoh to enslave all the free people of Egypt (Genesis 47), turning them into feudal serfs that had to pay their lords 20%. This is what Traditional Christendom delivered for Europe, excepting they were more generous that Joseph, only making the serfs pay 10%.
I say Traditional Christendom, as opposed to liberal American Christendom, which the Roman Church has always considered apostate, even their “Cafeteria Christian” American flock.
The original Baptist Statement of Faith made the mistake of including Predestination of the Elect. They quickly redacted this as it was not good for the Baptist demographic. In any case, when this currently unfolding apocalypse is done, we will all find out who the Elect really are, and who they aren’t.
“Meet the New Boss, Same as the Old Boss.”
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That’s some pretty heavy stuff, Rick – I’m glad I understood every word of it. Thanks for sharing.
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I wasn’t in the room when Falwell supposedly took the salvic money from Reverend Moon, so I guess that entire story could just be Fake News (before Donald Trump invented Fake News – like Al Gore invented the Internet). Whatever the actual case with that, the larger point is that the entire Abrahamic tableau, of organized religion generally, is the cynical playing upon the psychological willingness of many or most to believe most anything that confirms their pre-existing biases (aka confirmation bias) and vanities.
Most of the members of the KKK (and other white nationalist ‘neoZealots’), in all its 3 different historical manifestations, are ironically descendants of European serfs (aka virtual slaves), of whom today’s Xian constituents have all convinced themselves, through generations of ‘faith’ lore, that they are also the new Chosen People, i.e. the Exceptional Americans. Only most of these ‘exceptional ones’ couldn’t be bothered to get an advanced education or improve themselves otherwise.
I forgot to explicitly include that the Temple Cult era, Jewish Zealots were xenophobic ‘nationalists’, and thus their social zeitgeist was inverted within the new age of Christ. But this inversion only happened because the Romans killed all the militants, leaving only those willing to operate under the new and improved Greco-Roman schema. Hence Rabbinic Judaism, where the papacy and the Church’s theologians (since Augustine till last century) stated that Christians should not kill off the Jews, because they are needed amongst the goyim as living examples of Evil.
Isn’t it ironic that the Jews’ own holy book details that their founder, Judah, started their tribe by his getting fooled into having sex with his daughter-in-law, because Judah wouldn’t let Tamar have access to the youngest son, as the Levirate law required. Tamar had to pretend to be a street hooker. From Judah on, the Jews are ever depicted as evil in some way, especially Judas. This is their assigned role, as canon [sic] fodder. Scripture as … script.
However, not all ‘Jews’ suffered this fate of the Zealots and the Sicarii. The Hasmonean ‘Maccabees’ were actually Hellenizers, as were the Herodians (Idumeans – aka Esau), both in league with the Imperial Romans, some of them literally in bed with them.
These elites, like today (with Trump the ACTOR – playing a white nationalist recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel) play both sides of the fence. And only a minority squawk, the majority assuaged by their rose-colored lens. Alabama’s evangelicals even willing to vote a pedophile into the Senate, so as to further support the financial rape of their own kind.
Creating both the Preterist and Futurist End Times Schools is a variation of playing both sides, and in this case helped fuel not only the violence of the Reformation, but motivated the former serfs, canon and cannon fodder, and some of their ‘gentil’ ‘lords’, to hop on boats to the new Promised Land, i.e. New Canaan, where they used their newly gained Old Testament fervor to take ‘their’ Providential land from the evil, barbaric natives, the Canaanites du jour.
The old and generally accurate saw is that “history is written by the winners”. Unfortunately, this doesn’t allow the descendants of such as serfs to gain proper context, a clear view shorn of tinted glasses, and thus understand their unwittingly scripted role and where they might likely be headed.
One partial remedy would be to find a copy of Tupper Saussy’s “Rulers of Evil” (out of print but can be found online) that gives a much less distorted view of American history (as cynically and covertly directed by Rome and London).
“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45: 7 KJV)
His ways are mysterious indeed.
So to the Religious Right and White Supremicists (and everyone else for that matter): “Be careful what you ask for,” and Caveat Emptor!!
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ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz. snort! what? Okay, Rick. You win. You win the award for most conspiratorial claims without any substantiation. Having other numbnuts agree with you is not substantiation. It is delusional empathy. Please, Rick, don’t stop now. I am convinced that the world cannot spin without more of your delusional ad hominem attacks that include everyone, except you of course (as if ANYONE EVER approaches an issue without presuppostions. Join the real world.) and those who agree with you. Geez, this site used to have semi- (and i am being so VERY generous) intelligent posts. Now it’s just devolved into psychotic ramblings. And you know what the scariest part is? You believe this crap. You really do. Please, do everyone a favor. Take a hike across the Sahara without water. I can guarantee you that such a “tremendous” loss will only raise the worldwide IQ.
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Oh Geez, good “doctor”. Really. Have you at last found your soulmate. Yea, great stuff from Rick. Really top-notch and sound. Seeing as how you are often reticent to reveal certain details about your delusions (that’s okay, who wouldn’t be), one is often left to resort to discerning what you really believe by what you agree with. Now if you really agree with Rick’s post, and all it’s provisio’s , may i heartily suggest you seek counseling. In this age of post modernism and it’s accompanying relativism, one might understand a hesitancy to correct or rebut. But seriously? You had me thinking that despite your vacuous posts you still might be somewhat sane and relatively intelligent. But if you just gave a hearty endorsement to Rick’s insane and inane ramblings, you just lost the last few crumbs of respect i may have had for you. Now i realize, for those thus deluded, that reality and facts have no real meaning or place in this alternate reality. It is, after all, all about affirmation and confirmation, not verification. And you’ve written books? Time for a “dumber” alert.
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Glad to see you’re still awake, Chucky; looks like you’ve been busy in your life’s calling to flame a certain blog.
Can you let me know which specific comment or assertion of Rick I gave “a hearty endorsement”? I let you give your consistently personal, hate-filled rants that target me specifically and routinely show that you missed the whole point that all the other adults who read this blog understand, and publish them, so do you think I endorse or give a thumbs up to all your comments? I actually did encourage you to post here at the beginning as well, when I thought your critiques were intended to be constructive.
BTW – I may take you up on your offer to “seek counseling”. Can you recommend your counselor that you use, so I can also ask them what happened in our history of discourse that turned you into such a hate-filled person obsessed in perverting anything I say rather than considering it (and sometimes other adults to try to have adult conversations here, even if we all don’t understanding all the comments of each other), and pondering any subtext or open challenges it provides rather than just a veneer of your simplistic worldview you’ve been spoon-fed, and don’t seek to grow in? I ‘d also like to learn more of what happened in your past that “turned you”, based on your experience and something said here on this blog that suddenly turned you so ugly and vindictive, and not introspective.
‘Nuff said.
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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Boy, you liberal elitists, just like the dog in the bible, return to your own vomit. First, in your response to Rick, you feed your ego a bit. I mean, “thank goodness you understood” the depth of his gnostic and rambling post. If only the rest of us were as enlightened as you. Others here probably aren’t aware of how long I have followed you and posted here, so they might understandably think that i’m just some guy who hates you and your politics. I have posted here often, and when the posts are coherent and rational, I give said response. When they (or yours) are of the quality of Rick’s, then to waste time on irrational and somewhat delusional posts with a point by point rebuttal is impossible, surely you know this. Why should one use reality to respond to delusion? Even your psych would tell you that.
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Seriously, dude? Good grief, get out of the dark room, or at least raise the shades a bit. Talk about conspiratorial trope! There are so many false claims in your post that it is, in itself, a false post. Be glad to point them out to you, but I doubt you would be open to correction. Besides, i sense you would blubber and cease to exist if you realized this pseudo-world you have created in your mind wasn’t real. To paraphrase the Jerry McGuire movie, “you lost me at hello”. So Jerry Falwell recognized Sun Myung Moon as the new Messiah. What utter falsehood and delusion. Whether you like Falwell or not, there is no way he would endorse such beliefs. Here’s a challenge for you, one not usually encountered in the imaginary world that many who need psychiatric care create. Prove that Falwell endorsed Moon as the new messiah. Prove it. Give a quote, article reference, audio confirmation. Anything. I know you can’t, because your “hell with the facts” claim has no foundation in reality. When one starts their post with nonsensical claims, they deserve no consideration, and one would be justified in skipping the rest.
Lest you haven’t realized it, anyone can post conspiratorial and delusional ramblings. You can find them all over the internet. They are truly ubiquitous.
So there. Now you will ignore my challenge, and respond with more conspiratorial claims and ad hominem attacks. This is how the mentally unstable offer “rebuttals”. Can’t wait.
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What if he does? You did plenty of attack and rancour,when a simple challenge would suffice.
Perhaps you ha e an over emotional attachment to the issue?
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Thanks for your reply to Chuck. I was raised amongst those naughty liberal Christians, and a PK to boot. That helps explain my behavior.
And, so yes, I’d also like to know what his hysterical attachments are. Buddha said that we should learn to let go of our ego attachments, and then we can live more fully. And hopefully then find the Truth that Jesus seems to have wanted us to.
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Gee Rick. Which “truth” is that? Wanna quote the Bible? A little mental exercise for you in hopes of putting your feet back on earth.
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No Ce’, I have an overexposure to conspiracy nuts. Not that these rantings don’t (accidently) touch on a truth now and then. They are just so twisted and convoluted that they deny any response given. The authors will just jog off onto another trail and leave your head spinning with fairy tale fantasies. Ever read David Ickes. If you have, then you’ll know what I mean,
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You are in serious denial, surely a good ‘framing’ job, depending on one’s respective POV. Are you a true believing sheep, or perhaps a sheepdog (true believing or otherwise)?
In any case, we’ve just demonstrated how the ‘dogwhistle’ (or maybe rather a ‘sheepwhistle’?) works. And the sheep, or sheepdog responded.
Maybe Jerry was only thinking that Reverend Messiah, “Better than Jesus” was merely his financial savior? The fact is that numerous people were claimng that Jerry was indeed endorsing Moon as such, true or not.
Jerry Falwell got himself into bed with Reverend Moon, who is well documented being associated with Asian fascists, among other people, and such as the Washington Times. Nuff said.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Moonies/jerry_falwell_and_myung_moon.htm
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/u03.html
My second post, already admitted that I wasn’t in the room with your dear saint Falwell, when he took the Moonie money, so I can’t be sure what happened, or what was really in the mind or mouth of Jerry’s.
Wait till after you finish dropping reactionary bricks from your moon-like caboose, before you you respond. Smooth Move tea will help considerably.
The evil Goethe once said that ‘there were none so enslaved that believed they are free.’ “Free”, as in Liberty.
The traditional Catholic Church, not those libertine American cafeteria Catholics, does indeed ascribe such American style ‘freedom’ as liberty which will necessarily lead to libertinism.
When all is said and done, they will fold up the “American Experiment” and restore Platonic order of the Logos, with the Elect over their serfs. at least that is the script, if you choose to continue on your unwitting and blind path.
Jesus met with Satan, and Satan offered Jesus secular control of the Earth. Jesus refused and let Satan run the program (for 1,000 years). As I stated before, in 70 CE Jesus was correct in that the Flavians destroyed the Temple, to the very last stone. And Rome ruled, as even adopting Christianity, and giving us the Nicene Christian canon, … and its fodder.
In 1066 CE, the Norman Conquest occurred, and 3.5 years later, in 1070 CE (do the math) it mostly concluded, with another 3 and a half years to mop up. This gives us 7 years of Tribulation. It was memorialized in the Domesday Book. ‘Domesday’, as in Doomsday, from the Book of Revelation, where there are 24 elders sitting in a ‘zodiacal’ circle around God, the Sun. 24 elders, metaphorically representing 1,000 years each (rounded down for the likes of Chuck), represent the Great Year.
As each literal ‘day’ is comprised of daytime and nighttime, so each sign of the dead-fishy Great Year has twelve months, each divided into its own day (of Christ) and a night (for brother Satan).
The Norman Conquest was indeed ‘connected, as the Normans, and their Templars, soon went back to Jerusalem and went rooting around for special things. During the Crusades, the Templars and the Ismailis Nasari (and their Assassins) sect were accused colluding, BTW, by both other Christians and Muslims. Hmmm
When the Romans turned loyal slaves into ‘freedmen’, the freedmen had to wittingly remain loyal to their ‘patrone’ (the same etymological roots as for ‘patriots’ and ‘patriotism’), else be manumitted back to explicit slave status.
And so what would Goethe think of you Chuck? What Master(s) do you Really serve?
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One Master, Rick, Jesus Christ. Someone, I have no doubt from your writings, you don’t have the slightest clue as to who He is and what He believed or taught. You constant opaque references to Christian terms mingled in with totally unsubstantiated historical claims mingled in with “Ickes” like reasoning (granted, you haven’t accused every famous person of being a pedophile yet) proves nothing than your aptness for fictional writing. And no, there are still stones from the temple in Israel.
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I’m not sure Falwell said in so many words, that Moon is the “new messiah”. But, Falwell did take $73 million from a Moon front organization, and he praised Moon as “An unsung hero to the cause of freedom, who is to be commended for his determination and courage and endurance in support of his beliefs.” Those beliefs including, of course, his own messianic nature.
See:
https://www.apologeticsindex.org/u04.html
http://rense.com/general20/unholy.htm
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Well bit of a stretch there Jerry, don’t you think? Seeing as how you, nor I, have any idea what Falwell was referring to when he said “beliefs”. Religious beliefs? Moral beliefs? Economic beliefs” If he said what YOU said he said, this is stlll so very far from endorsing Moon as the Messiah, don’t you think?
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Chuck, the direct quote I cited was attributed to the Washington Times — which pretty much means you have to take Moon’s word for it.
But before you go rejecting this story as just more “fake news”: just what does it mean to be a “Messiah” anyhow? Is it just a matter of walking on water? No, just miracles don’t make the grade, according to 2 Thess. 2:9.
But someone who is “a hero in the cause of freedom”, notable for “determination and endurance”: now, that sounds like a Messiah. Especially considering that Moon was the founder of a great world religion. What more could anyone ask for, from a Messiah?
At any rate: when Falwell stood by Moon’s side, he knew full well that Moon claimed to be a Messiah greater than Jesus. Isn’t that the sort of claim that leads to CS Lewis’ “Lord, Liar or Lunatic” trilemma? If Falwell didn’t denounce Moon as “Liar or Lunatic”, what other conclusion is possible about what Falwell was thinking?
And let’s not forget to analyze one other comment.. When called on the carpet for accepting Moon’s money, Falwell said: “If the American Atheists Society or Saddam Hussein himself ever sent an unrestricted gift to any of my ministries, be assured I will operate on Billy Sunday’s philosophy: The Devil’s had it long enough, and quickly cash the check.”
Does the Devil really give unrestricted gifts to Christian ministries? And what is the difference between the Messiah and the Devil, theologically speaking? “Lucifer”, the “Morning Star”, is Jesus’s title as given in 2 Pet. 1:19, Rev. 2:28 and Rev 22:16. It’s clearly a messianic title, as explained in Isaiah 14:12-15. And don’t try to confuse me by saying that Lucifer is not the Devil.
Rick is always quoting Isaiah 45:6-7, “I am the LORD, and there is none else. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” Jesus and Lucifer, God and the Devil: just another Fake News false dichotomy.
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Correction: the actual gift from Moon was $3.5 million, which was parlayed into $73 million in debt relief. The Lord’s finances are managed in mysterious and confusing ways.
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Thanks for chiming in, Jerry – nice to meet you!
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As are His corrections to erroneous claims.
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I don’t understand the seemingly capricious “reply” system here, where some thread posts one can reply to and others not.
So this approach will have to suffice for some cases, I guess:
Dr. Future said to Chuck: “Can you let me know which specific comment or assertion of Rick I gave “a hearty endorsement”?”
This is pretty funny, since I was guessing that you were being somewhat back-handed towards me, and reactionary Chuck took that bait. Looks like I was right, …. or?
Whatever. The societal context today is the great tension between Globalism and Nationalism, pretty much the same as it was 2,000 years ago, the dawn of the fishy age. Zodiacal Astrology was the cutting edge science of the day, heavily encrypted in the canons, for those with eyes and ears.
The subtext of the Judeo-Christian canon (and Islam) is in advancing the elite (Elect) interests of Globalism, and here there are 120 OT verses supporting such, and 80 NT ones. Such as the descendants of Jesse inheriting the Earth. Remember the ‘gentil’ gentiles being grafted onto the Root of Jesse, from Romans 11?
But who was Jesse, … really?
If one reads the OT narratives of the patriarchs, without blinders or tinted lens, then one can clearly see that these people were extreme elites, not some otherwise hoi polloi, rude nomadic shepherds, as one is usually taught in Sunday School.
When the printed Bible was ‘released’ to the former illiterates, it was not ‘really’ a concern that they would truly comprehend the playbook. Supposedly there is an old Muslim maxim saying: “Context is everything.”
Jesse had a son named David, and a grandson named Solomon, and the ‘Israelites’ hated them both. So says the Good Book, which Chuck seems to deny much of.
The Israelites hated these kings of Judah (there he is again) as they did not like being press-ganged into building the new city and the Temple. They did not like the new, big government being imposed on them by Jesse’s lineage. Starting to sound familiar?
The Bible says that Esau would regain his rightful inheritance, back from Jacob, and I say this happened with the graft of the ‘wild’ olive branch back onto the domesticated olive tree. The Talmud even calls the red-headed Romans ‘Esau’.
At the beginning of the ecumenical period just after WWII, Pope John XXIII (I believe) told the Jews that he was their ‘Joseph’. When Judah and his brothers learned who the pharaoh’s vizier was, Judah (and his descendants) had to pay obeisance to Joseph (via Ephraim), until the “two sticks become one”, that is. Ephraim and his brother were the descendants of Egyptian nobility, via the priest that pharaoh selected as Joseph’s wife. These were the people that the Bible, the Word of God, says turned all the free people of Egypt into bondage serfs.
Ironic that the Southern Baptists grimaced so when they finally apologized for participating in their now Lost Cause, where the elites conned the former white serfs into thinking that they could be the lords over others using the cynical excuse of Ham’s odd sin. These are the core of today’s white nationalists, who are primed for the same fate as the similar minded Jews of 2,000 years prior.
Now, who was Jesse, …. and where did Ephraim (along with his ‘lost’ half-tribe) really go?
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Rick,
I was not intending to be “back handed” toward you – I was really making fun of myself for my limitation in following complex trains of thought (it may be my advancing age…)
You are right, though, that Chuck “took the bait” – his track record here is that understanding subtexts, natural conclusions of data (putting together 2 + 2), and inferences is not his strong suit, nor letting people give their views without always having to “correct” them as the “heresy police”, rather than as interacting adults in conversation; coming from such a church environment I can understand it, but I grew out of it as I became an adult and had to underact with people from different cultures, who could teach me a thing or two, while I remain an ardent follower of Jesus and the Gospel.
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Thx for the clarification doc.
I will be interested in seeing your book. In case you have found it already, you might be interested in looking at Martin Bernal’s “Black Athena, Volume 1”, where Professor Bernal eviscerated the foundations of the Romantic Movement, the very first intellectual product of the so-called modern university system. This from Gottingen University sponsored by George II in the 1730’s, the father of ‘that’ George III, of course. The German royalty of England, yet today.
The Romantic movement is the ’emotion’ based mal-foundation of such as the Nazis and today’s white nationalist “Blood and Soil” movement. The soil where they were once serfs paying rent. Paying rent to whom?
“underact”?
I have seen a lot of Chuck’s type; some are just zealous ‘true believers’ who are afraid of confronting absolute Truth (as opposed to various constrained Truths), that which Jesus said will set one ‘free’. However, there is a literal army of gatekeeper trolls out there as well, akin to Agent Smith in the Matrix.
There are many different ways of looking at this Jesus character. Some today insist that Paul (or even Josephus) was the real creator of Christianity, and that Jesus might not have liked to have been one, considering the Romans’ Nicene version.
Back to your post topic though.
Maybe a year ago, I had a chance walk home with a rather reclusive neighbor, a veteran of 6 Army tours in Afghanistan (and now a mercenary in private security). He told me that their real job there was to protect the opium trade. I offered to loan him a book about the global opium trade, but he declined. He mentioned that he and his mother and brother were Odinists, and being slightly ecumenical, I thought little of it. Near the end of the walk he went off on his “slut” ex-girlfriend who had left him for another some time before, after supposedly having made a life commitment to him, albeit not some form of even Odinist marriage I take. I made the mistake of trying to talk about the complexities of human mating relationships, but now I am on his evil eye list.
But, it was only after the Chancellorsville business that it dawned on me that he is one of ‘those’ people. In the walk home he had mentioned, just before his ex-girlfriend, that he didn’t like certain other categories of people, and he saw no reason to get along with them, even though he admitted that powerful interests profited from setting different flocks of people against each other.
Like Chuck, many do not like have to deal with changes, especially changes to their native culture, even if they might be improvements. They’ll engage in many forms of infantile resistance, including throwing out buzz words and phrases, like moral relativism and Postmodernism. They are happier with the seeming ‘freedom’ of their one-size-fits-all lives.
Now the alt-right women are starting to rebel against their alt-right men: https://youtu.be/0JFLHHdQBrQ
The one woman, at least, wasn’t married, but neither was Jesus, as he was supposed to be.
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Thanks for sharing more. We don’t get the “Odinists’ mentioned much in these parts. I guess it’s sort of a “thor” subject…
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Lol. “This Jesus character”. You okay with that good doctor? Or are you “Christian” beliefs as pagan and watered down as Rick’s here? Dude, again, due yourself a BIG favor. Leave the Lord out of your ramblings. He doesn’t take kindly to those who misrepresent Him. Just recycle your gnostic, egotistical ramblings. Stick to your mentor Ickes. He has no power to discipline you. Christ does.
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In addition to the Odinist movement, are you also going to discuss so-called Christian Identity? I’m not sure if it is the same thing, but there is a current movement claiming a ‘Christianity’ long pre-existing the normative Christianity that we have known since Gospel times. I believe it conforms to the rejected Nazi proposal to the Roman Church to have a reformed “Positive Christianity” devoid of any Judaic input vector. ‘Positive’ here alludes to the ubiquitous negative behaviors of the tribe of Judah as ironically presented in what is mostly considered their own historical narrative.
Because of the general truism that most all foundational histories are propagandic panegyrics, the self-effacing nature of the the OT is commonly seen as an indicator, at least, of verity. But does it efface too much?
To wit, let’s talk about yet another prostitute, good ol’ Gomer, whom Hosea wed (Hosea 1), in order to repopulate Jezreel. Was Gomer a literal woman, who just happened to share the name of Gomer, this latter son of Japheth, who fathered the Ashkenazim? According to Genesis, the Gomerites are NOT Shemites, yet, as we know today, over 90% of ‘Shemitic’ Jews today are self-identifying Ashkenazim, considered by many, including Professor Shlomo Sand, of “The Invention of the Jewish People” to be converted Khazars, which he claims are generally Turko-Slavs in origin.
Instead, was Hosea’s Gomer a figurative allusion to another, non-Semitic, people (their royalty actually – per the story) agreeing, perhaps for some earthly reward, to play a Semitic role in the long running ‘play’? A play whose literal stage is the world, the unfolding play ‘gradually’ reforming (and ‘harmonizing’ to use the Hellenistic term) barbaric humanity, in stages, while also greatly enriching the creators of the scheme?
We are getting close here, to a (m)achiavellian political concept of “controlled opposition”, and in using a similar lens, then perhaps we might want to consider that both the Conquest of Canaan to the forced emigration of the so-called Lost Tribes can be reframed as more properly being a form of ethnic cleansing – of an actual Semitic people who were mostly Canaanites in origin, who were imperfectly converted to their new interpretation of El (their heavenly father god of the Canaanite pantheon), now the monotheistic God of Moses and his 603 (minus the 10 Commandments) laws of mostly ‘cultural inversion’ (see Jan Assmann on his (“Moses the Egyptian”).
Once, you cleanse the poorly konforming natives, then you bring in some willing outsiders, like had been done with the Danites, who are now known to be from Greece, and prior from Egypt.
Cultural Inversion, … sounds like initiating Culture War perhaps? A culture war driven by a god who can’t seem to make up his mind, or perhaps purposely plays Crazy like Donald Trump (and Samson, the Danite’s Nazarite naughty judge)? Or did Jesus countermand his Father via of his own initiative, by un-inverting the Jew’s Mosaic culture laws?
Moore naughty judges?
The late Nicholas DeVere (of that Earl of Oxford clan), in his interestingly titled, “The Dragon Legacy”, asserts that it was his uber-elite Norman clan of pasty, green-eyed, ginger heads that were the real players of the Bible, not … the Jews. Was this a veiled allusion to the half-tribe of Ephraim and Joseph? And that Judah bows before Joseph, whom Judah had urged the selling of into slavery. And/or does it point to red-headed Esau? But this begs the question of why the Bible doesn’t tell us what twin brother Jacob’s hair color was, only that he was of a fair complexion.
Is it coincidence that it was elite Oxford University Press that published Scofield’s re-contextualization of Jesus’s word “generation”, such that it would allow a justification of the Jesuit’s notion of a Futurist Second Coming. Whose side are these Anglicans on anyways? Oh, right, they are slowly becoming Catholic again.
But why was the Scofield Bible targeted towards the Low Church? Let’s remember here that the nationalist Zealots of yore were mostly rural volk, who drank their apocalyptic, canonic Kool-Aid. If the script worked the first time, don’t fix it.
Like law-making, cultural transformation is a dirty business like sausage-making, especially on a global scale. And the latter is also literally very bloody, but why does that really have to be so? Is it because of all the Earthly goodies that are Providentially at stake? God helps those who help themselves?
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ZZZZZZZZZZ. DUDE!!!!! Other than revealing your encyclopedic knowledge of “apparent” (and boy am I being so very generous) irrelevant “factoids” (again, so very generous), what, other than you puffing yourself up about imagined facts (thus previous references to “gnostic”), do your posts even achieve ( I imagine most are thinking “mean”, but they don’t want to appear unenlightened)? Anything? Anyone? (chirping).
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Well, Chuck, if my posts “seem mean” to you, then maybe because ‘they say’ that sometimes “the truth hurts”. You seem a little too politically correct for my liking, as well as an hysterical loon.
By “gnostic” were you referring to your Bible (I assume the proper KJV in the case), where I quoted YHWH as stating that he was the author of EVERYTHING, everything good and everything evil?
Or are you like one of those “cafeteria Catholics,” mostly of the libertine (“Satanic”) USA social engineered flock, that gets to pick and choose what parts of the Bible and Papal doctrine they get to observe?
You know, like celebrating Christ Mass … on the birthday of Sol Invictus, the day that the literal Sun rises from its 3 days of death at the Winter Sol — stice. What part of the Bible do you get the authority to celebrate Jesus’s birthday in any case, much less on a pagan holiday. Gonna get one of those pagan Christmas trees as well? My, my, my? What’s Savonarola gonna do with you?
What church did Constantine belong to, as high priest of Sol Invictus? Who gave you that Nicene oriented Bible and Creed? My gosh, it was Constantine, or did he have a doppleganger?
Are you one of the Freemasons that celebrate the secret Black Mass in the basement or attic of your ‘Christian’ church? All the while being a good elder or deacon of the exoteric church congregation? Just like in the original days, when the priest and elders of the church went down to the mithraeum directly underground and did their esoteric church business out of view from innocent sheep?
Retired Italian admiral, Flavio Barbiero, has a nice discussion of how Mithraism was the original inner (esoteric) church for Christianity, in his “The Secret Society of Moses”, where Josephus Flavius brought his extended Maccabee / Hasmonean family to Rome, under the sponsorship of the Flavian emperors. These long Hellenized ‘Jews’, like Philo of Alexandria, were well versed in pagan matters as well as the Judaic. Hence you ended up with 153 fishies in the net, coming from Apollo’s Delphi, part of Pythagorean sacred math and geometry. This is how you ended up with the Logos.
I previously mentioned the Protestant Huguenot Tupper Saussy’s Rulers of Evil, where he demonstrates that your churchey ‘Protestant’ Freemasons covertly collaborated with the Jesuits in fomenting the American Revolution. Oh, I forgot Chucky, there were no Jesuits at that time, as they were ‘disestablished’ only a couple years before the Revolution. Did your Mother Church really kill so many of its precious Jesuits, or did they really disappear and join such as the French Grand Orient Masonic lodges, and the Bavarian … Illuminati? Bavaria?
With the prior, it is also well understood now that the Templar suppression was Fake News as well. All a show for the credulous Chuckys of the world.
Isn’t it great that Jesus’s human ancestors stopped people from sacrificing their children to Moloch?
But now, people like you will sacrifice their children in the military at the drop of a hat, or a false flag, for others’ profits of Mammon and/or God knows what else? Onward Christian Soldier, Marching as to War, with Constantine’s Cross of Jesus Going On Before.
Before Constantine made the cross the central icon of Xianity, the symbol was the anchor and fish, just coincidentally the imperial symbol of the Flavian emperors.
I understand that crickets are becoming quite the fashion in sustainable edible protein production these days. Maybe that was your problem?
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Correction, “your” Jesus, and “your” version of His gospel. Glad to be of service to the unaware among your audience of several.
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A question for you Rick. Who, really, was Satan Clause, and where did elves (read alien hybrids) go? Don’t know. Didn’t think so. You see, that was a “delusional” question with no basis in reality. Your gnostic ramblings reek of the “enlightened” ego, one who is privy to all the secrets that the hoi polloi don’t quite understand. And dude, let the bible references go. Those are going to cost you, big time. God doesn’t appreciate pagans like yourself jerking His word around to substantiate your delusions. See, reality demands, well, real things. Truths. Not just gibberish strung together from dozens of unrelated, and imaginary, sources. Yea, we can all get on board with the “stick it to the man” , “fight the establishment” rages. But after the fantasy settles, and the light of reality shines through the fog, what really is left? Just a confusing, incoherent hodgepodge of someone’s paranoia. It’s like a radical on a soapbox, yelling at an audience of one. Who cares, and who is listening?
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Spoken like a true gatekeeper, and Pharisee.
“And dude, let the bible references go. Those are going to cost you, big time. God doesn’t appreciate pagans like yourself jerking His word around to substantiate your delusions.”
On whose authority do you speak padre?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-hIVnmUdXM The actual
violence is the evil, not the free exercise of speech in the guise of a march. Rioting is not speech.
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Violence?
Trump’s good friend, Vladimir Putin (formerly of the godless KGB) and the Russian Orthodox Church, thinks that godless America is a bunch of feminized wussies. The link below discusses why so many American evangelicals have become enamored of Putin, as do many in the ‘secular’ alt-right.
To digress from somewhat, ironically, it looks like some alt-right women are getting fed up with alt-right tiki-torch culture warriors.
“According to Bass, Trump listens to the counsel of evangelical advisers who take such “end times” prophecies literally.
Back to explicit violence:
“Of all the possible theological dog-whistles to his evangelical base, this is the biggest,” she continued. “Trump is reminding them that he is carrying out God’s will to these Last Days. They’ve been waiting for this, praying for this. They want war in the Middle East. The Battle of Armageddon, at which time Jesus Christ will return to the Earth and vanquish all God’s enemies.”
She warned that for some evangelicals, this is considered a “climax of history.”” https://www.alternet.org/human-rights/theological-scholar-explains-horrifying-reason-trump-supporters-celebrated-armageddon
Think of Samson, with his weird hair, and weird covfefe-like riddles, where Samson “sought an occasion against the Philistines.” Today, we have become the Philistines in many eyes.
Samson’s violent actions precipitated the destruction of the Temple at Shiloh, and the chain of events led to a new order, the kingship of David and Solomon.
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